Apparently you don't understand what they are stating -- -the data source is very clearly stating that the data shown for deaths in Sweden under reports the deaths -- due to the delay from Sweden in reporting the deaths. The other countries in Europe are not under reporting their deaths in recent days... and therefore they don't have the warning. The death trend from Sweden in recent days shows a down trend because the deaths are under reported. Trying to use the chart to claim that the death trend in Sweden is down is dishonest. Trying to use the chart to make claims about death in Sweden compared to other countries in recent days is dishonest because the Swedish death data is under reported. You are being deliberately dense and dishonest. It's very SAD.
It's been this way for months; neither Jem not Tsing Tao seem to understand that the data on Sweden and Florida is underreported in the most recent time periods.
you are such a dishonest idiot... and you just make shit up. How many times do I have to tell you there is nothing wrong with the way Sweden reports... per the people who make the warning... you fucking dishonest moron.... I will highlight the information you need to learn... so you stop being such a dishonest idiot... liar... who just makes up shit as if it is real. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-sweden-death-reporting Why do COVID-19 deaths in Sweden always appear to decrease in the last 10 days? by Edouard Mathieu November 13, 2020 Our World in Data presents the data and research to make progress against the world’s largest problems. This blog post draws on data and research discussed in our entry on the Coronavirus pandemic. Reuse our work freely There are two ways that COVID-19 deaths can be presented over time: by the date of death, or the date on which the death is reported. Neither of these methods is necessarily better than the other—but it can affect comparisons across countries and over time if these methods are not consistent. In the data that we present on Our World in Data, which comes directly from the European CDC, deaths in Sweden are shown by date of death, while deaths in other countries are shown by date of report. This matters because it takes a number of days until all deaths for a particular day are reported. In practice this means that Sweden might today only report 10 deaths for yesterday, but once reporting is complete the death count for that day might increase to 40. The death counts for the last 10 days in Sweden should therefore always be interpreted as an incomplete count of the deaths that occurred in this period. How confirmed deaths are presented for Sweden COVID-19 deaths are reported by the Swedish government by the date on which the death occurred. Since there is a lag between the time a person dies and the time the death is reported, the death counts for the most recent period are always incomplete. They are often most incomplete for the latest 2 to 5 days, but can be incomplete for 10 days or more. This undercount in recent days means that they often appear to be falling; but when this is later completed, data shows that more deaths were occurring during that period. This means that for the last 10 days of data, death counts in Sweden must only be interpreted as incomplete measures of mortality. As an example, this chart shows what confirmed deaths looked like for the period from October 20 to October 29, when the data was first published on October 30 (red series), and once many more death certificates had been added on November 12 (blue series). One day after October 29, it looked as if deaths had peaked on October 27 and then started to fall, but in reality that’s not what happened over this period. What actually happened is shown by the blue series: deaths increased steadily. This also means that each day, the Swedish government will add new deaths for multiple days in the past—mostly on recent days, but on average up to 10 days in the past, and sometimes even more, if deaths have been reported with a long delay. Our source for COVID-19 deaths, the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, updates its figures for Sweden directly from the Swedish government’s data. This means that these daily changes affecting the historical data will be visible on our charts. Sweden is the only country for which the European CDC currently applies this method for the reporting of deaths. It is also important to note that this does not apply to confirmed cases, but only to confirmed deaths. Daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths in Sweden between October 20 and October 29, 2020 Shown is the rolling 7-day average. The two time series represent the data as reported by the Swedish government respectively on October 30 and November 12, 2020. Oct 20, 2020Oct 23Oct 25Oct 27Oct 29, 2020012345678As reported on Nov 12As reported on Oct 30 CC BY Source: European CDC – Situation Update Worldwide – Updates published on October 30 and November 12, 2020 How confirmed deaths are presented for other countries For other countries, the European CDC does not build its dataset based on the date of death, but rather based on the date of report. More precisely, every morning the European CDC collects each country’s cumulative total number of deaths since the start of the pandemic, and subtracts the previous day’s total from it. This results in a daily figure that corresponds to the number of deaths reported in the last 24 hours—regardless of when those deaths actually happened. This means that if the death toll for a country was 20 for a given day, it will remain 20 indefinitely.1 There is nothing wrong with how Sweden or other countries are reporting deaths. But it is important to know these differences when studying the data from Sweden, and even more when comparing it with other countries.
This simply confirms everything I have been stating. Are you really this dense? THE RECENT DEATH DATA SHOWN ON THE CHARTS FROM SWEDEN IS UNDER-REPORTED.
Jem is in way over his head; that B. of Arts degree isn't helping much. So much delusion with him; still refusing to give up the ghost on his theories about Sweden.
no you fucking idiots.. you all are so fucking dumb.... its crazy... Do you think all deaths are being reported real time and making into that spread sheet every day on the date of death? How fucking stupid are you. No... it is simply that the other countries... just live with the death on the date it is reported... they don't make the effort to reconcile it to the actual date of death.
Sweden itself gave up...they are now in the same boat as everybody else...using more restrictions to control the 2nd wave and waiting for the distribution of a vaccine. wrbtrader
Jem on Covid is like Trump on this election. They don't know when to admit they were wrong. He's clearly wrong but something in his personal make up makes it impossible for him to admit he's wrong; possibly just an extreme narcissist like Trump.
you are so dumb you don't even understand how stupid GWB has been. It is now dawning on him that if someone dies at 11:59 pm on a Saturday night the 25th... . It might not get reported until Monday 27 or Tuesday in other EU countries... In Sweden it might get reported on Monday the 27th or Tuesday also... but when it gets reported... it will be reconciled to Saturday... whereas in the other countries it just stays as Monday the 27th. You see morons... that is not under reporting... in some sort of negative way... its just makes comparisons difficult for a short time.
You are sadly confused. Let's get back the reality.. You have pushed that Sweden's "no lockdown" approach to provide "natural herd immunity" was a model that the rest of the world should follow. Now Sweden has clearly stated their approach was a failure and the government is instituting mandatory restrictions & lockdowns just like the other European countries. Yet for some reason you can't let go of your fantasy that should let the virus freely run through the population while urging the at-risk only to stay home. This approach is a complete fiasco -- as now stated by Sweden. You really should let go of your "natural herd immunity" fantasy.