In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

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  1. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    The Best and Worst Places to Be in the Coronavirus Era

    By Rachel Chang, Jinshan Hong and Kevin Varley
    November 24, 2020

    As Covid-19 has spread around the world, it’s challenged preconceptions about which places would best tackle the worst public health crisis in a generation.

    Advanced economies like the U.S. and U.K., ranked by various pre-2020 measures as being the most prepared for a pandemic, have been repeatedly overwhelmed by infections and face a return to costly lockdowns. Meanwhile, other countries—even developing nations—have defied expectations, some all but eliminating the pathogen within their borders.

    Bloomberg crunched the numbers to determine the best places to be in the coronavirus era: where has the virus been handled most effectively with the least amount of disruption to business and society?

    Covid-19 Resilience Ranking (Covid Status)

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    Covid-19 Resilience Ranking (Quality of Life)

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    #1681     Nov 29, 2020
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    It is just a matter of time until Anders Tegnell is completely pushed out of the Swedish government. The prime minister has already described his disastrous "natural herd immunity" approach as a complete failure. We should start a pool on the number of days until Anders Tegnell is thrown overboard.

    Similarlly we should note that the idiot, Scott Atlas, in the U.S. appears to have been cast aside in the White House coronavirus task force. The legitimate experts on the task force are no longer willing to put up with his fabrications and nonsense.... and refuse to attend meetings if he appears.
     
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    #1682     Nov 29, 2020
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    One again - Germany reports and allocates deaths nearly immediately by date. Sweden is similar to Florida -- there is a delay in reporting and then a significant delay in allocating the date of death. You will need to wait several weeks to get the actual properly allocated Swedish death figures.

    Anyone who believes that the deaths per million in Sweden is declining in recent days does not have their head screwed on straight -- especially since the number of reported deaths is going up on each reported day.

    Let's take a look at something that is more up to date - cases. Ignoring the fact that Sweden is urging people not to get tested because they are both out of tests and lab processing capability -- so the cases numbers in Sweden are skewed down.

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    https://ourworldindata.org/coronavi...othing=7&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc
     
    #1683     Nov 29, 2020
  4. jem

    jem

    This is why I call you a moron...

    Sweden has been doing better than Germany and about the same as Canada right now.
    (its is a close when you factor in the delay.)

    The reality it that... they are all exploding with Covid... and deaths are going higher.
    GWB's top Covid response country country... Germany ... has failed with the rest of them.

    Which confirms the major point I was making last spring... ... locking down the low risk when you have hospital spaces was a disaster. Lots of damage and very little upside... because you are just putting off infections to future... ( to paraphrase GWB we knew winter was coming. As Tegnall said you can't evaluate the benefits of the lockdown until we see the second wave upon reopening. )






    https://ourworldindata.org/coronavi...othing=7&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc



     
    #1684     Nov 29, 2020
  5. jem

    jem

    What are you calling a significant delay...

    Are talking 3 to 5 days or 30?
    When I have looked the jumps are in the next report or 2. (so 3 to 5 days.)

    And don't try to lump Sweden into a bad actor category.
    There is nothing wrong with the way they are accounting.
    They think deaths should be attributed to the actual date of death.
    Which makes a ton of sense.





     
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    #1685     Nov 29, 2020
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    And most European countries and states in the U.S. can allocated reported deaths to date of death fairly quickly. Sadly Florida and Sweden seem to be unable to perform this simple task in a reasonable timeframe -- therefore their data lags.
     
    #1686     Nov 29, 2020
  7. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Canada / Germany doing better than both Sweden / United States in their overall Covid Resilience Ranking as shown in my earlier charts as of November 23rd.

    Canada 73.2
    Germany 71.2
    Sweden 68.7
    United States 66.5

    The places to be is New Zealand, Japan, Taiwan and South Korea...they are kicking everybody but in Covid-19 performance.

    New Zealand 85.4
    Japan 85.0
    Taiwan 82.9
    South Korea 82.3

    The Scandinavian countries that did in fact lockdown and had a successful lockdown...are clearly outperforming Sweden too as shown below.

    Finland 82.0
    Norway 81.6
    Denmark 77.0
    Sweden 68.7

    Its obvious that the above countries that in fact lockdown are also outperforming Sweden Covid-19 performance except for the United States.

    Top Performers

    New Zealand tops the Ranking as of Nov. 23 thanks to decisive, swift action. The small island nation locked down on March 26 before a single Covid-related death had occurred, shutting its borders despite the economy’s heavy reliance on tourism. Early on, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s government said it would target “elimination” of the virus, pouring resources into testing, contact tracing and a centralized quarantine strategy to snuff out local transmission. Having largely achieved it, New Zealanders are basically living in a world without Covid. The nation has seen just a handful of infections in the community in recent months, and live music and large-scale social events are back on. Though its tourism industries are suffering, New Zealand is also well-positioned for a vaccine with two supply deals in place, including one for the shot developed by Pfizer Inc. and Germany’s BioNTech SE.
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    Commuters walk through Shinagawa station in Tokyo on Nov. 18. High levels of social trust and compliance meant citizens pro-actively wore masks and avoided crowded places. Photographer: Carl Court/Getty Images

    In second place is Japan, which charted a different path. It lacks legal means to enforce a lockdown, but other strengths emerged quickly. Due to tuberculosis outbreaks in the past, the country has maintained a public health center system staffed with contact tracers who were quickly redeployed on Covid-19. High levels of social trust and compliance meant citizens pro-actively wore masks and avoided crowded places. Although it’s now seeing a record uptick in infections as winter looms, the nation of more than 120 million people has just 331 serious cases of Covid-19 currently; France, with a population half the size, has nearly 5,000 virus patients in intensive care. Japan’s ability to avoid fatalities despite having the oldest population in the world propelled it higher, as did its foresight in sewing up four vaccine deals—including both frontrunner candidates that use the revolutionary mRNA technology.

    Third-place Taiwan’s success is all the more remarkable considering its linkages to mainland China, where the virus first emerged last December. Whisper networks conveying worrying news from Wuhan allowed Taiwan to act early in restricting entry at its borders. The island then pioneered a tech-focused approach to rallying its 23 million people to protect themselves: launching apps that detail where masks are in stock or list locations where infected people visited. It’s gone more than 200 days without a locally transmitted virus case and much like New Zealand, life has largely reverted to normal, though borders remain shut. Taiwan has so far, however, failed to ink any bilateral deals for the most progressed vaccines.

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    #1687     Nov 29, 2020
  8. jem

    jem

    See this is why I call you gwBe-a- moron in addition to gwBe-lying.


    Allocating deaths to the day they happened is a very valid process.
    Only propagandist morons like you would try to denigrate it...




    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-sweden-death-reporting

    How confirmed deaths are presented for other countries

    For other countries, the European CDC does not build its dataset based on the date of death, but rather based on the date of report. More precisely, every morning the European CDC collects each country’s cumulative total number of deaths since the start of the pandemic, and subtracts the previous day’s total from it.

    This results in a daily figure that corresponds to the number of deaths reported in the last 24 hours—regardless of when those deaths actually happened. This means that if the death toll for a country was 20 for a given day, it will remain 20 indefinitely.1

    There is nothing wrong with how Sweden or other countries are reporting deaths. But it is important to know these differences when studying the data from Sweden, and even more when comparing it with other countries.




     
    #1688     Nov 29, 2020
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Enjoy your fantasies. I have explained fully the Swedish death reporting days and their reporting mechanisms and cycle --- pointing directly to the government website (including how to translate it to English) as documentation of their processes.

    Anyone with any common sense understands that the deaths in Sweden over the past 6 weeks have not been declining either on a raw number basis or on a basis of per million.
     
    #1689     Nov 29, 2020
  10. jem

    jem

    Oh looks it's the expected and ubiquitous gwBe-lying response when he is clearly wrong...

    plus a misdirection about the last six weeks. (anyone can see deaths bottomed at one or two a day in September.)

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/


     
    #1690     Nov 29, 2020