In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. jem

    jem

    So why don't you be honest this time and tell us... why those deaths did not all happen on the 17th or 18th....

    have you figured that out yet?







     
    #1621     Nov 22, 2020
  2. jem

    jem

    and when I compare it to other countries I say so...

    But... the during the first few days I said deaths were exploding I explained that I was comparing Canada now to Canada before their first lock down...
    I commented that they were exploding past their old highs..

    And now they are 3 to 4 times higher... so they are still exploding with Covid cases.
    (as are many areas including Sweden.)




     
    #1622     Nov 22, 2020
  3. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    There's a conflict between different media sources about the number of deaths within Sweden for any particular day.

    It's been that way since Day 1 of the Pandemic in which Sweden has acknowledged such in the past about the way they report their Covid-19 numbers.

    Many different news media sources report the 96 new deaths number for Wednesday, November 18th and I give an example below on one involving Reuters because I'm not a subscriber to Bloomberg.

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    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-sweden-cases-idUSKBN27Y1Q5

    STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Sweden registered 96 new deaths among people diagnosed with COVID-19 on Wednesday, the highest for at least three months, Health Agency statistics showed.

    Sweden has recorded a total of 6,321 deaths, several times higher per capita than that of its Nordic neighbours but lower than some larger European countries such as Spain.

    The country registered 4,007 new daily cases on Wednesday. The increase compared with a high of 5,990 cases recorded earlier this month.

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    In contrast to show another source via Worldmeters.info that reports only 11 new deaths for Sweden on Wednesday, November 18th.

    Sweden-Wednesday-November-18th.png

    Yet, something is mentally unstable about Jem to be calling people names, calling someone a liar, sometimes using profanity when you or anyone else report exactly what the media is writing.

    If Jem has a problem with Reuters, Bloomberg or anyone that post numbers about Sweden that he doesn't agree...he should grow some balls and write / bitch to the authors / reporters of those articles considering they have their contact info in the articles.

    I say strongly mentally unstable because Jem lives in California (somewhere near / in San Diego) and he does not live in Sweden and I once asked him what's his devotion to Sweden instead of to other countries that clearly are kicking Sweden's butt in their Covid-19 performance...countries that did not lockdown (e.g. South Korea).
    • No replies...just an argument about San Diego, California.
    Therefore, what's the reason for his undying love for Sweden that doesn't even know he exist ???

    My guess is because Sweden is the country that tried herd immunity in which Jem is one of the ET folks that supported such but Sweden health officials has publicly admitted it didn't achieve herd immunity...another way of saying it failed.

    Therefore, what's fixation of the undying love for Sweden...a country he has no vested interest. In contrast, other herd immunity advocates here at ET have gone silent but maybe they (e.g. Buy1Sell2) are the ones that stated for fact that the United States had achieved herd immunity 1 - 2 months ago. :D

    Now they say they for fact have individual immunity to Covid-19 as a way of saying they've given up on the fact that both Sweden and United States failed to achieve herd immunity without them having the balls to admit to such.

    In contrast, I have a strong interest in countries like United States, Canada and France because I'm a citizen of these countries. I also have a strong interest in South Korea because I love the country, love their healthcare system and actually lived there for a few year after being stationed there in the military.

    The good thing is that there's a reason why the new administration in the United States of Biden / Harris are now looking at simple science being used in South Korea instead of Biden / Harris looking at Sweden.

    I have no sweat in Sweden...you will not find me obsessed with Sweden like some unstable mentally misfit still fixated on herd immunity. My point, people seem to be blinded by what's going on in their own back yard (the country they actually live in) and would rather spending calling people names about countries they have no sweat in the country.
    • Pure Madness
    By the way, here in Québec...the Covid-19 performance has worsen via the fact more people are becoming Covid-19 fatique prior to the Christmas holidays. Government and police are making more effort to just photograph them in their maskless activities and then give the images to media so that all Quebecors can see who they are...a peer pressure tactic that's commonly used by the police instead of doing arrests and $1000 fines. :wtf:
    Glad I live many hours north of that type of craziness but I would rather to police arrest them for breaking the new health code laws involving indoor public places...take their pictures and post their mugshots online like they do for people arrested for other crimes.

    The actual video of the event is below and I had to take a double look at it because the Brunett (0.16 - 0.26 secs of the video...again appearing often after 1.00min) with the black jacket / purple sweater / white & black shopping bag on left shoulder / gogo boots and then seen later in the video swinging her facemask above her head. :(

    She has a very strong resemblance to my girlfriend that's an ICU nurse...causing me to look closely because I actually thought it was her.
    • Girlfriend has white and red gogo boots...proves her innocence that she's not a Covididiot. :D
    Yet, I realized it wasn't her because she was working at the hospital (several hours north of Montréal) about that time of the scene in Montréal and Facetime talking to me from the hospital cafeteria and thanking me for the homemade Sushi I made her. :rolleyes:



    Hopefully nobody ends up in the hospital a few weeks from the date of that maskless dancing at a shopping mall...hospitalized for the Christmas Holidays.

    wrbtrader
     
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    #1623     Nov 23, 2020
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  4. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    This was my conclusion in a previous year he just seems off. Note how he never admits he was wrong; rather he doubles or triples down on his failed ideas hoping nobody will notice. It's hopeless trying to talk sense into him; he's like Trump really, the more exposed they become the more off the rails they go.
     
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    #1624     Nov 23, 2020
  5. jem

    jem

    When Sweden reports they batch the data and then its needs to be reconciled to the date of death. GwBe lying.... was either confused by his media garbage hate on Sweden or did not care to be truthful. I had to correct him multiple times.
     
    #1625     Nov 23, 2020
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  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I explained very clearly how Sweden reports. You can't even answer the question of what days of the week Sweden reports. Let me explain it to you again.

    Sweden reports COVID data on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. Data reported on Tuesday represents a compilation of a three day period (Sat - Mon). The data reported on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday represent 24 hour reporting periods.

    This means the 96 deaths registered and reported on Wednesday, November 18, represents a one day reporting period. This is the information that Sweden reported to the press and shows up in their national health information release on reported deaths.

    Sweden suffers from the same problem as Florida. The death information by date do not get allocated to charts for two weeks or longer after being reported. So the death data in recent days looks like it is declining even when it is rising due to the lag.

    You deliberately confuse the reported death information with the lagging allocation by date to call everyone a liar and other names. The truth is you are deliberately being dense and not accepting reality because you don't want to let go of your "natural herd immunity" fantasies which Sweden represents.

    Sadly the truth about Sweden is carried in the press every day -- rapidly rising cases, ICU struggles, and an increasing death toll while the second wave overtakes a country that is ill-prepared because their government led them down a "natural herd immunity" fantasy path... and now they are paying the price in both health and their economy for a second time.
     
    #1626     Nov 23, 2020
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  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Jem being a twisted up thing inside does not get nobody is wishing bad in Sweden to prove him wrong.

    We simply knew way back herd immunity was a vanishingly small possibility. Some developed nations have of course done well considering while many under the yoke of narcissist leaders or damned selfish sections of the population are doing poorly.

    What you can do for your country once lauded is now derided by idiots like Jem self interest and hyperbole is filling his head.

    Kennedy was killed for standing up against, one wonders if Biden the 2nd catholic (also Irish background) president is risking the same fate but he is old and I'm sure is not afraid.

    It is good that nobody is giving Jem the cookie he is desperate for.

    If you give a gnus a cookie...? :)
     
    #1627     Nov 23, 2020
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  8. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    As a 4th generation Catholic myself...I hope Biden survives his most likely only Presidential term with all the crazies out their on both sides of the political fence.

    I truly want Biden to complete his term to see how he raised America's standards back up to show the world it doesn't tolerate wannabe tyrants, wannabe dictators that has no respect for the United States Armed Forces.

    wrbtrader
     
    #1628     Nov 23, 2020
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  9. Wallet

    Wallet

    Exactly what is Biden going to do, with regards to the Military, to accomplish what you listed above.

    Please be specific.
     
    #1629     Nov 23, 2020
  10. jem

    jem

    What you wrote is all obfuscation and total bullshit.

    Over the last 5 or 8 weeks.
    You made claims about new highs in deaths in day in Sweden...
    I had to correct you and explain that those deaths are reconciled to the date of death. You then proceeded to lie and pretend you confirmed the data on the official swedish website... which I checked and reported here... showing you to be full of shit.

    I will bet 100 hundred thousand dollars to anyone who wants to take me up on this.
    You can can go back and see those posts where GWbe -lying claimed new highs in the Sweden deaths per day... because his crooked media did not understand that about 31 deaths (or whatever the exact number was) ... were reported that day... but then when you click on official site... the deaths are reconciled back to the actual day of death... meaning new highs were not reached.

    GWB got that wrong multiple times... and now he is bullshitting his ass off again.


     
    #1630     Nov 23, 2020