I am astounded by the magnitude of weak thinking sometimes evident in these forums. The U.S. never had, nor has, a uniform and highly coordinated attack on Covid, featuring universal manidatory mask wearing FROM THE ONSET.* The U.S. never had widespread consistent uniform testing with rapid results. Highly unreliable, cheap, readily available antibody dip-stick test results (up to 50% false positives) were intermingled with highly reliable, but too sensitive, PCR tests. It never had uniform, coordinated contact tracing and quarantining. It had very delayed ramping up of PPE, tests, repirators etc. Nor did it, nor does it now have, uniform reporting. What it did have is piecemeal, State by State, Governor by Governor, on again off again mitigation efforts. The results are what you would expect from an effort that fell short of total chaos but never came close to an ideal response. The ideal response would have to have had, as its base characteristic, national uniformity and consistency. Achieving this would have required competent leadership at the highest level which the U.S., regrettably lacked. In the U.S. case, the fundamental flaw in its Covid mitigation effort was not the result of a well-meaning mistake, but rather of a conscious failure to act. Naturally the results in the U.S., and in other countries with a similar semi-chaotic approach to Covid mitigation, are somewhat comparable. But they are not comparable to the results in countries that had essential mitigation features uniformly applied from the outset. What should be to no one's surprise, but somehow is, the results reflect, wherever human intervention was possible, the character and timing of the mitigation efforts. *I suppose you could say that the U.S. Covid response has been characteristic of one with a Sociopath Real Estate Developer/Liar/Con Artist leading it, and a former conservative radio talk show host in charge of day to day operations.
I'm not sure why either he's irrational on this topic. Anybody attacking Canada's record on Covid hasn't done their research. There are Americans trying to claim Canadians are emotional on this topic. Reality is Canadians are relatively calm and have no problem with the staged lock down strategies. The deniers on this site simply refuse to acknowledge reality and are mad all the time about Covid, lockdowns, their "freedoms", the supposed related catastrophes.
Canada is a leftist country with a weak populace who are unable to resist. Canada, hold my beer and watch this...
I suspect Covid will find you soon like Trump, another fat mouthy American without a good head on his shoulders.
Death Rate per 1M pop in Michigan = 718 Sweden - 582 deaths per 1M pop. Sounds a lot like you are mistaken.
When people are unreachable with cold hard data they are no longer operating on reason and logic. You are able to keep hammering away with facts but many like me simply walk away from the debate and use our mobility to get far away from lockdowns, deliberate destruction of small businesses and loss of personal freedoms. When there is no place left to flee to then it gets tricky. You could have been an attorney. I could not.
worldometer just now... 7 day average of Covid deaths Sweden 1 Canada 35 California 66 New York 15 2. In my opinion you are doing your brain and your country a disservice if you harp on deaths and infections before the countries could lock down old folk homes and put in place their Covid response. Sweden, NY, CT, CA, New Jersey, France, Italy, Spain an Belgium all had thousands of deaths early because Covid got into their old folks homes and population. For instance deaths went down dramatically in New York and Sweden once they locked down the old folks homes. It also seems deaths and infections went down in almost every 1st world country after about 8 to 12 weeks of Covid running through the populace. 3. So the question was and is ... did locking down the low risk group do anything to help matters once it was established there were enough hospital beds. Being that infections are breaking out in many of the places which locked down hard... It seem to me the answer is no. Lockdowns of the low risk cause very negative consequences and you can' t really show them doing much good if any. (once there hospital beds and treatment available)
Piezoe... Thankfully the St. Louis Fed is here to disabuse you of your ignorance. As I have told you at least a dozen times. The FED Reserve Banks are not part of the Federal Govt. The board is an independent agency... But the FED Reserve Banks are not part of the Govt... they are private. https://www.stlouisfed.org/in-plain-english/who-owns-the-federal-reserve-banks Who Owns Reserve Banks? So is the Fed private or public? The Federal Reserve Banks are not a part of the federal government, but they exist because of an act of Congress. Their purpose is to serve the public. So is the Fed private or public? The answer is both. While the Board of Governors is an independent government agency, the Federal Reserve Banks are set up like private corporations. Member banks hold stock in the Federal Reserve Banks and earn dividends. Holding this stock does not carry with it the control and financial interest given to holders of common stock in for-profit organizations. The stock may not be sold or pledged as collateral for loans. Member banks also appoint six of the nine members of each Bank's board of directors. 2. The FED creates money for the U.S. Governments deficit spending. (they sell bonds or notes for this.) The FED also creates trillions for its own account. Bernanke has told us they do this with a keystroke. No bonds required. They sometimes don't even tell us what they do with the trillions they create on their own. 2. So pie... do you understand what the FED just told you.... "the Federal Reserve Banks are set up like private corporations. Member banks hold stock in the Federal Reserve Banks and earn dividends. " -- Legal Note.... When lawyer's draft private corporations... they don't have to follow one structure. There are myraid structures, wth a variety of classes and rights. However, when you wish to go public... that is when you have to make sure you conform to specific structures. You Piezoe need to stop being ignorant and thinking the only way the banks can be private is if they are set up with common stock in a public corp. There are myraid ways to set up private corporations. The Federal Reserve Banks not part of the govt. If you are not part of the govt... you are privately owned. If you are uncomfortable with that idea... for a similar concept... look up NGO... Non Governmental Organization. A financial NGO which creates its own money.