jem, You remind me of the technical analysis debaters. Its very simple. You can do your own self tests via coughing into your own Petri Dish / Culture with a mask on and then coughing into your own Petri Dish / Culture without a mask. https://www.grainger.ca/en/category/Dishes-and-Petri-Dishes/Labware/c/24955 Next, store your cultures via the following instructions... Between 70 and 98 degrees F Leave the Petri dishes in a warm, dark place where the bacteria can develop, undisturbed, for several days. Remember to store the dishes upside down, so the bacterial growth remains undisturbed by any water droplets. The ideal temperature for growing bacteria is between 70 and 98 degrees F (20-37 degrees C). How to grow Bacteria in Petri Dish @ https://www.wikihow.com/Grow-Bacteria-in-a-Petri-Dish The above instructions work very well and will enable you to do your own research with your own mask to determine if they're effective in minimizing the viral load of whatever comes out of your mouth. That's the key, it doesn't prevent every single droplet...you want to minimize the viral load. You can then post your results here @ Elitetrader.com in about 7 days at the earliest. That's about how much time my son did his own test in his science class for an at home experiment that he volunteer to do when he developed an interest in bacteria after my own hospitalization / coma (life support) due to septic pneumonia. Your Experiment - You can even set multiple petri cultures at specific distances away from you and then cough in their direction. Write on the petri cultures the distance away (e.g. 1 feet, 2 feet, 3 feet, 4 feet and so on). Do the test for two categories - With a face mask on versus without a face mask. Useful Tip - Don't store your cultures in the same cabinet with food. By the way, I did the above same experiment in science class when I was in high school and studying abroad. It really is a fun experiment to do especially with your children for a science project. Therefore, when I say to do your own research...its what I literally meant. Spoiler Alert - Face mask work in minimizing the viral load. P.S. My teenager got a A+ on his experiment. wrbtrader
All of this information regarding the comparison of masks to full protection gear for medical professionals is completely meaningless to the discussion. Medical professionals are on the receiving end, not the transmitting end. The primary purpose of a mask outside a hospital setting is to prevent you from infecting others. Multiple studies including the one from Duke University have demonstrated the effectiveness of masks in the prevention of the spreading of aerosol emissions from individuals to stop the transmission of COVID-19 to others if the mask wearer is infected. This includes studies showing the best types of masks and their effectiveness. Masks Save Lives: Duke Study Confirms Which Ones Work Best https://hartfordhealthcare.org/about-us/news-press/news-detail?articleid=27691&publicId=395 At the same time we should take a look at the background of Denis G. Rancourt, whose nonsense you are pushing. This individual is a clown who was dismissed as a professor of Physics at the University Ottawa in 2009 for "academic squatting", grading issues, and a host of other problems. Of course Rancourt is most well known for pushing his white supremacy theories and other complete nonsense. Better find a more credible source for argument against masks https://www.laconiadailysun.com/opi...cle_3005ef4c-c1f4-11ea-9a41-a31c336c4b93.html In a letter by Charlie Gallagher in the July 8 issue of The Sun, he cites an article in the River Cities Reader, by Dennis (sic) K. (sic) Rancourt, which states that “Masks and respirators do not work.” The author of the article, Denis G. Rancourt, was dismissed as a professor of Physics at the University Ottawa in 2009 and is now a researcher for the Ontario Civil Liberties Association. He references a number of “peer reviewed” scientific studies to support his views and he concludes by attacking governments and the mainstream media for supporting the wearing of face masks during the current pandemic. If one reviews the studies that he references in his article, it becomes quickly obvious that he cherry-picked only those statements from the studies that appear to support his views, ignoring other conclusions supporting the use of masks. He also used a number of studies whose purpose was to compare the performance of N-95 masks, surgical masks, and respirators worn by health care workers to reduce their chance of becoming infected by their patients. Current face mask recommendations from the government and the scientific community are based primarily on studies showing that they substantially reduce the risk of an infected (and possibly asymptomatic) individual from transmitting the disease to others, although a recent study at Texas A&M University also indicates a substantial benefit to the wearer from being infected by Covid-19. If you are interested in Mr. Rancourt’s views on other subjects, you might try his Nov. 21, 2019 article in “Dissident Voice” entitled, “Dear Young Progressives: The White-Supremacist Anti-Immigration Anti-Political-Correctness Free-Speech Fascists Are Your Friends” or exploring his views on climate change. Thank you for wearing your face mask and distancing when appropriate — together, we can beat this pandemic.
Just a couple of weeks after neighboring countries opening the border to Sweden -- large portions of Sweden are declared high risk again and travel requires quarantine upon return. Norway Declares Parts of Sweden & Finland as COVID-19 High-Risk https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/norway-declares-parts-of-sweden-finland-as-covid-19-high-risk/ Sweden’s regions Blekinge and Södermanland as well as Finland’s region Uusimaa will be placed on Norway’s “red” countries list, after estimating that the infection rate in these areas has been mounting lately, Norway’s Government has announced. From Saturday, October 3, all persons wishing to enter Norway from any of the zones mentioned above will be required to undergo a period of ten days of mandatory quarantine, SchengenVisainfo.com reports. On Monday, Norway’s Prime Minister Erna Solberg clarified to Sweden’s counterpart Stefan Löfven that Norway will not fully open their doors to their neighbour country, during the meeting between the leaders of two Nordic governments. “It is clear that the Swedes would have like us to be more liberal on the question of borders,” Solberg pointed out. Norway’s National Institute of Public Health has estimated that the number of infections in Finland’s region Päijänne-Häme has marked a decrease; therefore, it recommends removing the quarantine rules for this region. Norway’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs urges its citizens to avoid non-essential travel to the following countries, after concluding that the rate of infection cases in these countries has been continuously increasing; Belgium, Andorra, Bulgaria, France, Estonia, Ireland, Greece, Iceland, Croatia, Italy, Luxembourg, Lithuania, Monaco, the Netherlands, Malta, Portugal, Poland, San Marino, Romania, Slovenia, Slovakia, the United Kingdom, Spain, Czech Republic, Switzerland, Hungary, Germany, Austria, Vatican City State, and parts of Sweden, Denmark and Finland. A total of 14,149 persons tested positive for the Coronavirus pandemic in Norway, while 274 persons have already died, up to this point. More than 11,000 persons have totally recovered from COVID-19, while there are still 2,685 active cases in Norway. Last month, authorities in Norway added Iceland and Lithuania, together with some other Nordic regions on its high-risk countries list, while also announcing that they had extended their global travel guidelines from October 1 until January 15. In September, Norway’s government urged its citizens not to travel to Slovakia and Hungary, unless for emergency cases, due to COVID-19 situation in these countries.
It's always striking when scientists & government officials close their borders to the scientists / government of a neighbouring country such as Sweden although I'm surprised that Finland has been added to that high risk list. They obviously know more that folks abroad in other countries outside of the Scandinavian countries. The United States must be on everybody's ban list. wrbtrader
well considering I made over a million bucks trading off technical analysis and tape reading. Co Owned an office (which was part of an LLC) and trained 20 other traders to use 1 minute and 5 minutes charts... I had my opinion about t/a. and my opinion was backed by data... and cash in my bank account. so you are correct my approach here is similar. after 33 million cases... if you don't have data to support your ideas... your ideas are suspect.
1. You just posted a meta analysis regarding masks while standing 6 feet apart. I already explained that there are no studies which show masks alone work. Masks with distancing work because all of the data we have shows Covid is not airborne and only spreads by droplets. So if ones stand 6 feet away... that works with or without a mask. To be clear... what you need to find is a few good studies which show masks alone work in the prevention of the transmission of Covid. 2. don't attack the messenger... review the studies to which he linked. One part of your critique is correct because I have read some of the masks studies. Many studies conclude that they found no efficacy for masks in their testing but then they conclude.. if the govt says they work you should wear them. or something similar. Only morons consider that part of the study useful. .
Then it shouldn't be a difficult test to do for yourself or for your family. My teenager was shocked to see what grew on those Petri Dishes after he coughed in their direction especially finding out what types of germs comes out of our mouths. In fact, I think all science classes should do that Petri Dish test to show students the importance of wearing a face mask. He even got the same results when placing a Petri Dish on a table in the center of 4 people having a conversation without a face mask. Seriously, its a little scary to see what germs comes out of our mouths and floating around as aerosols. wrbtrader
What is the point of you test with respect to the transmission of Covid? Didn't you grow things in petri dishes in 9th grade bio?
Maybe you didn't read my recent replies clearly...it answers both of your recent questions. Spoiler Alert - If you have an infection that can go airborne...wearing a face mask is effective in reducing (minimizing) the viral load that comes out of your mouth via coughing, sneezing or breathing. Do your own research (tests)...be independent. Make your own decisions. wrbtrader
Took him 20 years to make that million and he drained his father's resources dry doing it mind you...