In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Covid-19 cases in intensive care are rising again in Sweden
    In just under three weeks, the number of Covid-19 patients receiving intensive care treatment in Sweden has doubled.
    https://www.thelocal.se/20201002/covid-19-cases-in-intensive-care-are-rising-again-in-sweden

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    The number of people in intensive care units for the virus reached a peak in Sweden during in April, with 558 patients on the 25th and 26th of the month.

    Since then, the total has been steadily decreasing and fell to only 12 on September 11th.

    But since, the number of people with the coronavirus in intensive care has slowly risen again, reaching 24 on October 1st according to the Swedish Intensive Care Register.

    It comes as Swedish authorities are warning of a rise in the number of cases after a long lull during summer. This rise and fears of a second wave have prompted the government topush back plans to raise the limitof attendees at seated events, and the Public Health Agency to introducenew stricter rules for family membersof people with Covid-19.

    At Tuesday's press conference, Sweden's chief medical officer said it was hard to draw conclusions from the recent rise in intensive care figures however.

    "These are such low numbers that it is hard to say if it's a break in the trend or a temporary jump," said the National Board of Health and Welfare's Thomas Lindén.

    State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell said: "Some people are in intensive care for a long time, while others are only there for a short time, so I wouldn't call this a break in the trend, although it is absolutely an important signal to keep an eye on."
     
    #1001     Oct 2, 2020
  2. jem

    jem

    As I predicted... this time around with this outbreak Europe is now quietly following the Swedish model per the New York Times...

    They have realized you can't hide from the virus.

    I predicted exactly this... I think it was on this very thread.

    you covid idiots... like GWB and Bugenmoron and nine morons were so wrong.


    Vilified Early Over Lax Virus Strategy, Sweden Seems to Have Scourge Controlled

    After having weathered high death rates when it resisted a lockdown in the spring, Sweden now has one of Europe’s lowest rates of daily new cases. Whether that is an aberration remains to be seen.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/world/europe/sweden-coronavirus-strategy.html


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    In response to the recent outbreaks, many European countries are imposing new restrictions. But political leaders, anxious to avoid unpopular and economically disastrous lockdowns, are relying mostly on social-distancing measures, while trying to preserve a degree of normalcy, with schools, shops, restaurants and even bars open.

    In essence, some experts say, they are quietly adopting the Swedish approach.


    “Today, all of the European countries are more or less following the Swedish model, combined with the testing, tracing and quarantine procedures the Germans have introduced, but none will admit it,” said Antoine Flahault, director of the Institute of Global Health, in Geneva. “Instead, they made a caricature out of the Swedish strategy. Almost everyone has called it inhumane and a failure.”

    Back in the spring, when other nations were clamping down, Sweden was often vilified for having gone its own way. Its borders stayed open, as did bars, restaurants and schools. Hairdressers, yoga studios, gyms and even some cinemas remained open, as did public transportation and parks.


    Gatherings of more than 50 people were banned, museums closed and sporting events canceled. But that was the extent of the measures, with officials saying they would trust in the good sense of Swedes to keep their distance and wash their hands.
     
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    #1002     Oct 2, 2020
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  3. jem

    jem

    what the hell is this crap...GWB... you are desperately full of shit as your lockdown strategy is failing the world over.

    Your article about ICU usage in Sweden is a complete distortion and bullshit... at the moment.

    Swedes are admitting about 3 new ICU cases a day...
    and they are averaging less than one death a day..



    Tegnall wrote . there are so few in the ICU...you can't make any determination regarding trend.


    see for yourself...

    https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa/page/page_0/

    look at this chart...
    Intensivvårdade fall/dag




     
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  4. jem

    jem

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  5. jem

    jem

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    #1006     Oct 2, 2020
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  7. jem

    jem

    Hey Covid lying GWB...

    If you admit today you never downloaded the data or that you misunderstood what you are reading...

    and you admit the mass media just picked up one lying article and made hundreds of thousands of articles which were not fact and not reality... even though you claimed they were...

    I will drop this and I won't rip you to shreds tomorrow ( or when its first posted on the official site) if the # is not 752.


    I make this generous offer... because I am already half correct. Worldometer has October 1st at 436 not 752.


    but I figure there is still a chance you had another link and other data... and i am not ready today to rip you to shreds. I wait for proof. Unlike you... I know facts and reality. Its not a fact you were lying your ass off yet. There is a chance you really were in possession of data which said there were 752 infections reported on October 1st. However, at the moment if you were... there is a very strong chance... it was a raw number that had to be spread out along the past days. I'd say there is only about a 20% chance the number for October 1st will be 752 when it is officially posted on the Swedish website in the next few days.

    Again we will know soon.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/
     
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  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I don't have time to spend educating you on basic facts which are obvious to rational people. I will let others read the thread, review the links, read the articles and decide for themselves.
     
    #1008     Oct 2, 2020
  9. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Have you suffered a head injury ? Canada has been ready and prepared for a second wave. Because we have, it will hit us far less then most areas on the world inhabited by idiots like you. Yes, the shutdown clearly worked. The data proves that in spades to people with a good head on their shoulders. Unfortunately, you don't have one.

    As per EVERY month this year, Canada's Covid numbers are better then US numbers.

    We have told you many, many times about the nature of virus infections, about the need to contain the virus. We told you this when San Diego's numbers were roughly where Canada was at. It didn't last. Too many selfish idiots like you at the beach, at soccer practice, in crowded restaurants. And the results were predictable, and they will continue to be predictable.

    So you can fuck off with your false "exploding narrative". Nobody cares you are insane. Months of California, Texas, Florida with daily death rates 100+ sometimes closer to 200. Canada single digit. You can't bring those people back, but we can do is remind fuckers like you that many of those deaths are on you and people like you.
     
    #1009     Oct 2, 2020
  10. jem

    jem

    Oh... so now we are concerned about deaths... not your exploding cases as long as the people don't die and you have hospital beds?

    Welcome... you are no longer a Covid moron. You just made one of the argument many of us have been making since March. See... you can evolve.

    2. But, lets get to the deaths on who?

    Don't you understand you idiot... if you get the virus when the full lockdown is over... locking down the low risk can not be said to have save deaths you idiot.

    Locking down the high risk is what saves deaths.


     
    #1010     Oct 2, 2020