In reality, situation could NEVER be worse

Discussion in 'Trading' started by orbit23, Aug 7, 2024.

  1. S2007S

    S2007S


    The fed would cut to negative rates and hand out free spending money in the tens of thousands of dollars before zero....

    Maybe then they can actually implement universal basic income
     
    #11     Aug 7, 2024
  2. 2rosy

    2rosy

    what analysis did you do to conclude this? what datasets were used?
     
    #12     Aug 7, 2024
  3. Actually, they are trying to keep the inflation a bit longer (than shorter),

    simply to depreciate the HUGE DEBT the US has.

    All big industry nations in the west see it the same way.

    It is a chance for them.


    And yes, truth is mostly, that THIS now is better, than if we wouldnt have inflation:
    Then ALL of the debt has to been paid back (100% value), and in the end it may cost us (taxpayers) all more,
    than to go the inflation way.


    That is why, your presumption, there is so much money supply, is right in one way,

    in the other: it is a relief for national debt.


    That, plus high equities, could actually be a gift for many (active traders);
    too bad vast parts of society do not trade.

    They pay inflation + do not participate in equity markets.


    It was wrong in 1st place to make such a huge debt.

    Shows, that this type of democracy is not always the best for economy,
    as it simply makes problems worse (in a 4 year cycle).


    Rising debt, rising inflation, rising energy costs, manuf. jobs going overseas, etc.


    in the end one can just hope to get off that huge debt mountain, and live life as it used to be,...
     
    #13     Aug 7, 2024
  4. orbit23

    orbit23

    yesh, but when the tide finally shifts most will lose everything
     
    #14     Aug 7, 2024
  5. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    If so it is because they don't use stops. Which is the case for all markets, all symbols.

    But for some dumb reason you have it in only for crypto.
     
    #15     Aug 7, 2024
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  6. orbit23

    orbit23

    i mean for all markets, but crypto are just situation squared and 100x the amount of fraud (the entire industry is basically a fraud, with almost no exception)
     
    #16     Aug 7, 2024
  7. Coin Flip

    Coin Flip

    This is Elite Trader, we don't buy and hold.

    We traders feast on volatility.
     
    #17     Aug 7, 2024
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  8. Coin Flip

    Coin Flip

    You wish. Smart traders will profit with the momo of the bull and profit with the rising of the bear.

    You sound frustrated others are making bank.
     
    #18     Aug 7, 2024
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  9. Everyone knows the stock market leads the economy, except in a hyperinflation when the currency itself is being destroyed.

    But I believe conditions were actually worse in the late teens (1910-1920), according to Jesse Livermore. Absoutely nothing was moving and the exchanges weren't even open every day. Bid ask spreadz almost as bad as commissions on physical gold sales, no trends of any kind, just a dead market for nearly a decade.

    Even elite traders would leave that casino!
     
    #19     Aug 7, 2024
  10. maler

    maler

    In a stagflationary recession the market may go down a lot in real terms but due to the very high inflation, not so much in nominal terms. Most people are anchored and fooled by nominal values and deceptively calculated inflation numbers.
     
    #20     Aug 7, 2024
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