In Rand Paul's world, does a private doctor get to refuse treatment to a black man?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by OPTIONAL777, May 23, 2010.

  1. achilles28

    achilles28

    Yes.

    However, I wouldn't frequent the business because of it.

    Keep in mind, private business retain the intrinsic right to enter into contract with anyone they want.

    In this instance, Liberals intentionally conflated 50's era violent racism with non-violent "right-to-serve" laws to brand any supporter of property rights a violent racist !!!

    It's Liberal demagoguery.
     
    #41     May 24, 2010
  2. jem

    jem

    Ok liberal morons... why don't you show us where it says it is illegal for a tennis instructor to choose who he wants to work with?

    Next -- tell why you think the federal government should be involved in those types of decisions. Is it really the federally governments job to tell say a Jewish American tennis instructor he has to give tennis lessons to the brother of a hamas bomber or vice versa.
    Is it really the federal goverments job to tell a Catholic Doctor in a Catholic hospital she has to dismember unborn babies and suck them out with a vacuum on demand.


    At some point the government has to get out of peoples lives.

    I agree rascism is bad conduct. But when you try to legislate it away you wind up with small and mid size businesses being afraid to hire black people. Why is a good thing to allow the feds to be involved in this at all?

    The point libertarians try to make is that we do not want to live in a a world in which the federal government thinks it has a right to do anything other than was was enumerated in the constitution.
     
    #42     May 24, 2010
  3. If the tennis instructor has an open to the public business, and if he refuses to work with blacks because they are black, he will be sued and he will lose the lawsuit...

     
    #43     May 24, 2010
  4. Mnphats

    Mnphats




    Exactly the point libertarians are making.
     
    #44     May 24, 2010
  5. So Libertarians don't like the law...

    How shocking...

    They think the practice of racism is a Constitutional right...

     
    #45     May 25, 2010
  6. A privately owned business should have the right to refuse service on the basis of any whim of the owner, not unlike the freedom customers (already enjoy) to choose service providers based on any whim of their own.

    How hard is that to understand?
     
    #46     May 25, 2010
  7. You may believe that all you like...but it is illegal to discriminate on the basis of race in a public business...

    Is it a surprise to see the defenders of racism come forth?

    Nope...

     
    #47     May 25, 2010
  8. Interesting. I wonder if Rand Paul is named after Ayn Rand.
     
    #48     May 25, 2010
  9. You can rail against personal freedom of choice all you want to, as for myself I laud it as an honorable and worthy condition.
     
    #49     May 25, 2010
  10. PatternRec

    PatternRec Guest

    They are indeed sovereign. Just look at Arizona. They can pass laws that don't countermand Federal law. So if the imaginary world you envision with Rand Paul as President prescribed a law that says that the Federal Gov't cannot dictate anti-discrimination laws for private business, then each state is free to prescribe their own.

    That's why all your railing against this one man is pointless. He has no power to institute anything nationwide as a senator.



    But its the voters of the state which he is running for a senate seat who have a say. Your railing in the back room of a forum carries no weight. So put your money where your mouth is and go to his state and rail against him. Otherwise, who really cares?

    Politicians say all kinds of things but invariably do otherwise. Why? Ours is a system of compromise and corporate interest.

    Stop with the strawman arguments. Get over it. There's likely plenty of racist Democrats and Republicans in office who would if they could find a way to reverse or mitigate some of the protections afforded minorities. But they don't because they can't do so overty. Same would apply to Paul.
     
    #50     May 25, 2010