bong, our spending is going parabolic. The interest on our debt will soon swamp us. We have no way to bring this in line without austerity, which no one in this nation would form their lips to say. We are going down, it is not if, but when.
As you wish. Just keep this concession in mind the next time you throw out that generalization, as you have not proved it.
As pathetic as he is, he still stands head and shoulder above the other GOP candidates. That was a real stooge parade.
I haven't read the rest of this thread, so i apologize if I'm repeating what someone else has posted. Anyway, I have to disagree with the good Captain on this. All the polls say Romney's core support group is white working class voters. They absolutely despise Obama, plus they know very well what Romney was getting at, despite obama's attempts to take it out of context. This is a group that is upset about illegal immigration, the exploding deficit, the war on oil and coal, Obama's weak-kneed foreign policy and his support for various radical social positions like gay marriage.
Losing honorably is overrated in politics. Republicans are very good at it though. It's kind of a party tradition, Bush 41, Dole, McCain, bunch of clueless geezers who thought the media would treat them fairly if they didn't go negative. McCain in particular is a joke. Dole probably ran a worse campaign, but McCain actually had a very good shot at winning. Instead, he spent the campaign saying what a great guy obama was. Then he compounded it by wimping out and supporting the bailouts. Now Romney seems to be out to prove that he learned nothing from these disasters.
Romney had the white working class and then lost a good portion of them. In my completely unscientific polling talking to guys on the shop floor, other blue collar types I know, Romney has lost about 1/3 of those that were in his camp a month ago. They just don't see what he's going to do for them. He does not have a down to earth, coherent message that they can relate too. He better spit it out tomorrow night in terms they can understand and identify with, or he'll lose them all. He does still have strong support in the lower and middle management types I talk to, but it's not rock steady. People I know are voting against Obama, but they're not really "for" Romney.
Yes, I've been saying that all along. Nobody really wants Romney, they just vote against Obama, for whatever reasons, real or imagined. Even the Rep's don't want Romney, the worst possible candidate per Newt.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...romney-s-crafty-moderate-debate-strategy.html For a year, Romney has tried to run as Reagan. Heâs tried to show the Tea Party that heâs as ideologically hostile to government as they are. To impress his partyâs right-flank, he even chose Paul Ryan, a man eager for a frontal assault on the most popular aspects of the American safety net. But tonight, Romney ditched that strategy and repeatedly softened the ideological contrasts with Obama. Obama wants to spend more on education. So do I! Obamaâs against unaffordable tax cuts for the rich that will increase the deficit? So am I! And because Obama didnât sharply emphasize the contrasts, Romneyâs strategy worked. Perhaps the most important moment of the debate was when Obama conceded that he and Romney basically agree on Social Security, the issue on which Democrats have been defenestrating Republicans for 30 years. All summer, the Democrats have been painting Romney as a right-wing radical, but tonight Obama let him pose as an amiable grandpa just seeking to tinker around the edges to correct some of Obamaâs mistakes.
I read that article this morning. A good, solid portion of it is nothing more than complete and total horseshit. Romney did an excellent job making specific, detail oriented contrasts and pointing out where he and the President differ on a whole host of policy, and pointing out where they also are in agreement. And the fact that all summer the Democrats have been painting Romney in a particular manner that was NOT TRUE was revealed in the debate when he finally got a chance to stand up and say what he was for to an audience that didn't just get all it's talking points from the left wing media.