Impossible To Reliably Make 80%+ Per Year By Selling Puts or by Trading Option Credit Spreads?

Discussion in 'Options' started by RichLyons, Feb 24, 2018.

  1. TDMA

    TDMA

    There are only two ways, timing of a rare event such as BTC $20k down to $7k but you cannot guarantee when they will happen, usually turn up like busses, these are capital trades.

    The other is low timeframe trading, but there are very few professional options, let alone retail, this is income trading. Is it possible, yes, one of the small $5mn funds using Tesseract the past quarter booked +300%.

    If you time it corectly you may also achieve those returns but highly unlikely, the traders are correct, however you cannot say "assuming that", it is all intertwined so the structure of the markets would adjust if one part was changed.
     
    #21     Feb 26, 2018
  2. DeltaRisk

    DeltaRisk

    That’s purely market making.

    I was just referring to former traders joining up together.

    Institutional traders collude and have access to almost unlimited capital, you are correct that they can and do move markets all over the world. But, without colluding they’d have no control over the market prices. My point is, some traders are actual real traders who don’t need flow, or manipulation to be profitable.

    When a strategy is discovered that produces profits consistently, no one shares that information. Money is money, and if you share your edge you won’t make money anymore.
     
    #22     Feb 26, 2018
  3. ironchef

    ironchef

    Just curious, why you call these capital trades? Is that a general professional terminology?
     
    #23     Feb 27, 2018
  4. zdreg

    zdreg


    "Money is money, and if you share your edge you won’t make money anymore."
    if the edge is labor intensive and not particular scalable you can explain it but likely nobody will follow it.
     
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2018
    #24     Feb 27, 2018
  5. DeltaRisk

    DeltaRisk

    Nice try. You’re still not going to get it.
     
    #25     Feb 27, 2018
  6. zdreg

    zdreg

    your response lacks an explanation.
     
    #26     Feb 28, 2018
  7. ironchef

    ironchef

    Nice try zdreg.

    He said it multiple times on ET: He made money hand over fist with his method but no he won't hand over his recipe to any anonymous posters on an anonymous internet forum. :D
     
    #27     Feb 28, 2018
  8. zdreg

    zdreg

    thanks for the info.
     
    #28     Feb 28, 2018