Impeachment 2.0

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jan 11, 2021.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Source for the ruling that says so?
     
    #81     Jan 14, 2021
  2. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Article II, Section 4:

    The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
     
    #82     Jan 14, 2021
  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    In 1876, Secretary of War William Belknap was investigated by the House for corruption. Just minutes before the House was set to vote on his impeachment, he raced to the White House and handed his resignation to President Ulysses Grant.

    The House went ahead and impeached him anyway, and the Senate proceeded to have a trial. A majority voted to convict, but not the two-thirds required, so he was acquitted.
     
    #83     Jan 14, 2021
  4. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Since an ex-president cannot be removed from office, then a Senate trial has no merit especially since impeachment and conviction are political procedures and not criminal procedures. Thus, a Senate trial of an ex-president is both illegal and unconstitutional. This was not challenged with the Belknap case through the courts and so The Senate just made up their own rules. It was unconstitutional then, and remains so today.
     
    #84     Jan 14, 2021
  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Unless overruled precedent stands.
     
    #85     Jan 14, 2021
  6. Dick Morris described yesterday... "Impeachment trial can go on in the Senate after Trump is gone. If found guilty, he can be "removed from office". Of course he's no longer in office, but such a ruling would prohibit Trump from seeking election in the future... which is Pelosi's supposed goal.

    Morris suspects the trial would be delayed (up to 100 days?) to see if Dems can cobble a 2/3 majority.
     
    #86     Jan 14, 2021
  7. UsualName

    UsualName

    To be fair, this was a very efficient impeachment. The time and money spent on this was minimal.
     
    #87     Jan 14, 2021
  8. UsualName

    UsualName

    The law serves justice. There is no well I committed impeachable offenses in the last days of my presidency so I cannot be convicted because there’s a magical time window clause where the President is free from the constitution.
     
    #88     Jan 14, 2021
  9. virtusa

    virtusa

    #89     Jan 14, 2021
  10. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    This question would be tied up for months and perhaps years while winding it's way through the courts. I can tell you right now however that it is illegal and unconstitutional to try an ex-president in The Senate.
     
    #90     Jan 14, 2021