Impeachment 2.0

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jan 11, 2021.

  1. No, Antifa is a facist organization. Just because they say they aren't isn't any more credible than some guy saying he's a woman. They are what they are, but once the powers that be convinced people like yourself that a guy can be a girl simply by saying so, you'll believe anything regardless of any evidence to the contrary.
     
    #41     Jan 12, 2021
  2. UsualName

    UsualName

    All you are doing is making excuses for right wing terrorists. Many MAGAs have been radicalized by conspiracy theory and now we are dealing with a homegrown terrorist movement that follows Donald Trump.

    I’m sure there were many people who thought al-Baghdad’s had good policies, too, the same way you think Trump has good policies but you’re going to have to come to terms with the fact that you support a radicalized movement now, the same way they did. You’re part of it.

    Don’t be surprised when this whole thing turns to worse shit. You’ve been told over and over again you’re spreading lies and the right wing is radicalizing and becoming terroristic. How you ignore it and justify it is how you support it.
     
    #42     Jan 12, 2021
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  3. UsualName

    UsualName

    How far back do we have to go to find a relevant instance of “antifa”? Are you sure you’re not chasing ghosts?
     
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    #43     Jan 12, 2021
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    It's radical Islam turned rapist MS-13 turned refugee scaravans turned scary BLM turned socialist marxists. And they can't see how they keep getting played
     
    #44     Jan 12, 2021
  5. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    How A Snap Impeachment Could Shatter Our Constitutional Balance

    https://jonathanturley.org/2021/01/11/how-a-snap-impeachment-can-shatter-our-constitutional-balance/
    What is even more unnerving are the few cases that would support this type of action. The most obvious is the 1918 prosecution of socialist Eugene Debs, who spoke passionately against the draft in World War I and led figures like President Wilson to declare him a “traitor to his country.” Debs was arrested and charged with sedition, the new favorite term of today’s Democratic leaders to denounce Trump and Republican members who challenged the Biden victory.

    In 1919, Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote for a unanimous bench in one of the most infamous decisions to issue from the Supreme Court. The court dismissed Debs’ free speech rights and held that it was sufficient that his words had the “natural tendency and reasonably probable effect” of deterring people from supporting the war.

    That decision was a disgrace — but Democrats are now arguing something even more extreme as the basis for impeachment. Under their theory, any president could be removed for rhetoric deemed to have the “natural tendency” to encourage others to act in a riotous fashion. Even a call for supporters to protest peacefully would not be a defense. It would be as if Debs first denounced the war but also encouraged people to enlist. This standard would allow for a type of vicarious impeachment — attributing conduct of third parties to a president for the purposes of removal.

    Democrats are pushing this dangerously vague standard while objecting to their own statements being given incriminating meaning by critics. For example, conservatives have pointed to Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) calling for people to confront Republican leaders in restaurants; Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.) insisted during 2020’s violent protests thatthere needs to be unrest in the streets,” while then-Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) said “protesters should not let up” even as many protests were turning violent. They can all legitimately argue that their rhetoric was not meant to be a call for violence, but this is a standard fraught with subjectivity.
     
    #45     Jan 12, 2021
  6. ph1l

    ph1l

    The real problem is many believe Antifa is really anti-facist.
     
    #46     Jan 12, 2021
  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Yawn.History books will show a 1 term 2x's impeached president who twice lost the popular vote,attempted a coup and incited an insurrection against The US Congress.
     
    #47     Jan 12, 2021
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    No. 3 House Republican Liz Cheney says she will vote to impeach Trump
    https://www.wfla.com/news/politics/...z-cheney-says-she-will-vote-to-impeach-trump/

    Republican Rep. Liz Cheney says she will vote to impeach President Donald Trump.

    The Wyoming congresswoman, the No. 3 Republican in the House, said in a statement late Tuesday that Trump “summoned” the mob that attacked the Capitol last week, “assembled the mob, and lit the flame of this attack.” She says, “Everything that followed was his doing.”


    She also notes that Trump could have immediately intervened to stop his supporters, but he did not.

    Cheney says, “There has never been a greater betrayal by a President of the United States of his office and his oath to the Constitution.”

    Trump himself has taken no responsibility for his role in inciting the attackers.

    Cheney is a daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney.
     
    #48     Jan 12, 2021
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  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Bipartisan impeachment...nice!
     
    #49     Jan 12, 2021
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  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Mitch McConnell believes Trump committed impeachable offences, report says.
    House set to vote against president for unprecedented second time on Wednesday
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-trump-impeachment-offences-gop-b1786325.html


    Senator Mitch McConnell believes Donald Trump has committed impeachable offences, a report says.

    The senate majority leader has told associates that he is happy Democrats have moved to impeach Mr Trump as it will make it easier to re-build the Republican party, according to the New York Times.

    House Democrats plan to vote Wednesday to impeach the outgoing president for an unprecedented second time, majority leader Steny Hoyer has told his colleagues.

    The president will face charges that he incited violence against the country.

    The vote would come exactly a week after the Trump riot that saw his supporters storm the US Capitol to try and prevent Joe Biden’s election victory being certified by lawmakers.

    Mr McConnell, a senator from Kentucky, reportedly blames Mr Trump for Republicans losing control of the senate after the Georgia runoff election put Democrats in control of the tied high chamber.

    Five people, including a US Capitol police officer, were killed in the mayhem that followed Mr Trump’s rally where he urged them to march on Capitol Hill.

    After a lengthy delay caused by the chaotic scenes the House and Senate reconvened and confirmed Mr Biden’s win over Mr Trump.

    House minority leader, Kevin McCarthy, has also asked his GOP colleagues if he should call on Mr Trump to resign, Republican officials told the New York Times.

    Mr McCarthy is reportedly against impeachment but he and Republican leaders will not lobby for a “no” vote on the issue.

    Earlier Mr Trump gave his first live speech since the violence and called his supporters who stormed the building a “mob."

    But Mr Trump also warned Democrats not to remove him from office in his final days, through either the 25th amendment or impeachment.

    “It's causing tremendous anger and division and pain far greater than most people will ever understand, which is very dangerous for the USA, especially at this very tender time,” Mr Trump said on Tuesday at a segment of the US-Mexico border wall in Alamo, Texas.
     
    #50     Jan 12, 2021
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