Impeachment 2.0

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Jan 11, 2021.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Actually no. Anarchists are anarchists, by the very definition, antifa are antifascists
     
    #111     Jan 14, 2021
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  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    ANTIFA are not "antifacists".... no matter what your personal fantasy is.
    They are straight up violent anarchists.
     
    #112     Jan 14, 2021
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    GOP Rep Who Voted to Impeach: ‘Our Expectation Is That Someone May Try to Kill Us’
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-r...eone-may-try-to-kill-us-after-vote-to-impeach

    Freshman Rep. Peter Meijer (R-MI), who was one of 10 House Republicans to vote in favor of impeaching President Trump, said he and his colleagues are buying body armor and getting armed security. “I have colleagues who are now traveling with armed escorts… many of us are altering our routines, working to get body armor,” he said on MSNBC on Thursday morning. “It’s sad that we have to get to that point but our expectation is that someone may try to kill us.”

    Meijer said members of Congress felt “physically nauseous” when voting to impeach Trump, but he believed it was necessary because Trump showed no remorse over the deadly Capitol riot. “At the end of the day this was a vote of conscience and I believe in order to have accountability we must first reckon with what happened,” he said. Other GOP reps privately told colleagues that they were afraid for their lives if they voted to impeach.
     
    #113     Jan 14, 2021
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Your personal fantasies don't line up with the facts or the very definition of words. It's why you fell for the scaravans, because you keep buying into fox scaremongering.
     
    #114     Jan 14, 2021
  5. I am convinced we all need a total reset and find something everyone can agree on. I offer this as a baseline. If I hear Broadway Joe tell me one more time I can get more from social security and Medicare benefits I may lose my mind. :)
     
    #115     Jan 14, 2021
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  6. And some guy in a dress is a woman. Why? Because he says so. Antifa is anti fascist. Why? Because they say so. In both cases all evidence to the contrary is to be ignored. Radical left ideology 101.
     
    #116     Jan 14, 2021
  7. virtusa

    virtusa

    In Europe many countries have secret voting. So you can never know who voted for what. Would be a good improvement for the US.

    The whole election system should be replaced. "The winner takes it all" is not democratic. If 50% votes Democrats and 50% votes Republican, the political infrastructure should be also 50/50 shared. That would be democratic.
    Each time the US elections are not won by the same political party, the new elected throw out everything from the previous elections and fills up everything with their own people. So every time the existing political system is demolished.
     
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    #117     Jan 14, 2021
  8. Must be nice to be able to call out 20,000 troops and thousands of police to protect you when you are threatened or subjected to mob action.

    I wish the citizenry in my area and elsewhere were able to do that.

    Doesn't work that way though. The government has broken its essential, fundamental contact with the citizenry- ie. you behave and follow the law and we will protect you. we have taken away your ability to arm yourself, use force, and to develop militias but that is because those are government functions and they will protect you or not.

    One of the big differences between the DC incursion and the mob action in cities is that everyone in DC wakes up and says " this is a nightmare that needed to be stopped immediately and people need to be held accountable for not doing so." But then these same motherfuckers look at mob action in their own states and say "meh, let it roll for a month or two or maybe eight or ten.

    I will end where I started by saying again "it must be nice to call out 20, 000 troops when you think your little arse is threatened but small business owners can just stand by and watch their lives and livelihoods go up in smoke and their personal property occupied. The lefties and everyone I guess agree that that incursion in DC was banana republic stuff, and it is. But you know what else is? It's when the fucking government is quick to use governmental power to protect the government but leaves the citizenry defenseless and vulnerable to mobs.

    Fuck everyone in DC and their whiny goddam arses. They got caught off guard but are able to regroup and put massive resources together to do better. With the local mobs it is different. The governments did not get caught off guard after at least the first day. They looked insurrections/mob/thugs in the eye and encouraged them and said "that's okay." "Mostly peaceful."

    Don't even talk to me about DC until you shut down the local mobs and start protecting the general citizenry first or at least at the same time. Yes, Trump went off the reservation, but the lefties massively, massively embraced a culture of lawlessness that could never be expected to have a good ending. Both the nuts on the left and on the right would use it for a feeding frenzy. And they did.

    Lessons learned so far? It is good to be the government if you are attacked.


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    #118     Jan 14, 2021
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  9. UsualName

    UsualName

    That’s the idea of the American system, a constant state of revolution. As you saw in this last cycle, the Republicans paid a heavy price for their governance and they were demolished. Now democrats have full control. And in two years we will have another election to decide on congressional Democrats continuing control. It’s the way our system is designed.

    I often hear people in America put a pox on both houses but what they don’t understand is that is the design. If they wanted a third party or multiple party system then we would need to completely change our government to a more European, parliamentary system.

    The biggest flaw in our (American) system is we have a filibuster in our Senate. It makes change very difficult for both parties so we get stuck with outdated laws or don’t make new laws when necessary. The filibuster also invites more money in politics and corrupts the system.
     
    #119     Jan 14, 2021
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  10. virtusa

    virtusa


    Better evolution instead of revolution.
     
    #120     Jan 14, 2021