Immune System Imprint ... Could be big Risk for the Vaccinated

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Aug 6, 2021.

  1. UsualName

    UsualName

    What a dumbass thread this is.
     
    #51     Aug 12, 2021
  2. jem

    jem

    its because your team is douching up...
    instead of accepting the science presented.
    I think the topic merits discussion from thinking people...

    but vaccine nazi... will not let the science stand a serious review...



     
    #52     Aug 12, 2021
  3. UsualName

    UsualName

    You’re too dumb to try to be interpreting science. You should just stop. You’re obviously confused.
     
    #53     Aug 12, 2021
  4. As vaccine mandates spread, protests follow — some spurred by nurses
    A new round of protests like last year’s has sprung up in recent days, fueled in part by nurses who have also been finding audiences on social media.


    A few hundred protesterslined the sidewalk Monday outside Rady Children’s Hospital in San Diego to rally against California’s impending vaccination mandates for health care workers. And to the disappointment of many medical professionals, some of the protesters were nurses wearing hospital scrubs.


    Looks like a family affair in the M household.
     
    #54     Aug 12, 2021
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    #55     Aug 12, 2021
  6. jem

    jem

    another lefty troll avoiding a science discussion...


    here douchebag... explain why the scientists are incorrect here... in the original post. Honestly I do want see a real discussion.. instead we get the vaccine nazis and now you douching it up.


    https://www.statnews.com/2021/04/16...etter-some-experts-worry-they-could-be-worse/
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    In the case of Covid, some scientists are concerned that the immune system’s reaction to the vaccines being deployed now could leave an indelible imprint, and that next-generation products, updated in response to emerging variants of the SARS-CoV-2, won’t confer as much protection.
    That imprint can be helpful. In the 2009 H1N1 flu pandemic, elderly adults were protected by immune responses they’d generated more than half a century earlier, in childhood, through encounters with a related virus. But it can also interfere with your body’s ability to mount responses against strains that have evolved from the one you were first exposed to.

    In the case of Covid, some scientists are concerned that the immune system’s reaction to the vaccines being deployed now could leave an indelible imprint, and that next-generation products, updated in response to emerging variants of the SARS-CoV-2, won’t confer as much protection.





     
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    #56     Aug 12, 2021
  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Safest and most effective vaccine is likely J and J.
     
    #57     Aug 12, 2021
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  8. UsualName

    UsualName

    Again, you are grabbing onto something that is uncommon but for due diligence has to be watched for and trying to make some big deal out of. In no way shape or form does watching for “imprint” mean the vaccines available are not effective and not the best course of action.

    You are totally confused and lost.
     
    #58     Aug 12, 2021
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  9. Wallet

    Wallet

    Agreed, but even the J&J has it’s faults. The virus itself (design) attacks the endothelium, tis why we see a lot of clotting in severe patients. The vaccine, in mimicking the virus, by default causes the same problems.

    Myocarditis, coronary problems/side effects are not as abundant in the adenovirus vaccines as in the mRNA’s, trade-off and debatable are efficacy. J&J seems just as good as the others in stopping severe cases snd hospitalizations.

    There are no long term studies on these vaccines, obviously. So some caution is justified. But I’d be more apt to trust the J&J before any mRNA.
     
    #59     Aug 12, 2021
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  10. jem

    jem

    Now you are douching up so more with strawman b.s. because you can't argue with what I actually posted. Because it is science and your was douching it up.

    Nobody said the vaccines were not effective... I said their effectiveness is waning..
    That is 100 percent fact and its why they are talking about boosters right now.

    So stop being a douche and misrepresenting what I write.
    You are the confused one.

    I did not even see anyone state it not the best course of action.
    I believe they are for sure the best course of action for the high risk... given the data we have at the moment. But.. .there are risks.


     
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    #60     Aug 12, 2021