I'm Trading an RJ O'Brien futures account, and so far have made a lot of money...

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Con1991, Aug 30, 2020.

  1. Con1991

    Con1991

    Still learning as I go along tbh, I'm not entirely sure how illiquid contracts work, but I am assuming that traders add liquidity over time.
     
    #21     Aug 30, 2020
  2. DevBru

    DevBru

    You need a counterparty for every contract you want to buy or sell, you can't just magically buy as much contracts as you want, except in a demo account obviously.
     
    #22     Aug 30, 2020
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  3. Tradex

    Tradex

    At any given price there are only X or Y contracts available. With illiquid markets the smallest orders can move the market significantly in seconds, so you won't be able to get the price you see on your (demo) screen, unless you are willing to chase the market because you know something that the other traders don't know.

    Like that fake Orange Juice report in the Trading Places movie :D

     
    #23     Aug 30, 2020
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  4. Overnight

    Overnight

    Ahh, you've stumbled across the phenomenon known as "sim arbitrage".

    Your sim engine is lying to you. Sorry to burst your bubble. As one who trades illiquid futures outright, I can tell you that that huge green 9 figure number on your smartphone is a fantasy. It's an hallucination. In the real world it will never work. But the sim engine you have sure makes it seem all fine and dandy, doesn't it?

     
    #24     Aug 30, 2020
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  5. DevBru

    DevBru

    Give us as example, what size of position did you have in GC or CL?
     
    #25     Aug 30, 2020
  6. heispark

    heispark

    I love ET !! :D
     
    #26     Aug 30, 2020
  7. Con1991

    Con1991

    I was entering market orders of 500 or 1000 lots a time. I made sure to go below what I assumed would be the 'limit' in a real live account.

    To add, I would start with a few contract and build up margin using buying power.
     
    #27     Aug 30, 2020
  8. maxinger

    maxinger

    excellent.
    NOW proceed to trade Live.

    Then you can retire in just a day.

    However, if you are not ready/skillful,
    it could end up with a disastrous result.

    [​IMG]
     
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    #28     Aug 30, 2020
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  9. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    I wonder if that's what Robinhood does on their simulator via giving the illusion there will be fills in illiquid markets when in reality there will be no fill, partial fill depending upon the order type in real money trades of the same illiquid market.

    Traders then beat their chest and jump unprepared in real money trading.

    wrbtrader
     
    #29     Aug 30, 2020
  10. Tradex

    Tradex

    Few people know that but this great movie has helped PC manufacturers sell millions of home computers almost overnight.
    Before that the PC was just some odd and almost useless expensive toy, for most consumers.
     
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    #30     Aug 30, 2020