Im shorting Goog on Monday

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by jreynolds212, Jan 5, 2008.

  1. How are people playing the large gap down today?

    I'm looking to go long at open for a quick pop up for a couple of bucks, history is on my side.
     
    #101     Feb 1, 2008

  2. History means little.

    People are selling this stock. Don't be foolish.


    If you must go long, I'm happy to sell to you.



    Regards,
     
    #102     Feb 1, 2008
  3. Thurgood

    Thurgood

    I want to see the action at the open and I want to wait for the jobs reports. However, if the contract opens at > $13 (traded higher than that yesterday) I'll probably sell 5 contracts and keep 5 contracts.

    I had 8k shares of yahoo @18.90 and sold them yesterday... SON OF A ....
     
    #103     Feb 1, 2008

  4. Call your broker's trade desk and get the trade busted... :) (no joke)

    Depending on your broker and how your relationship with them is, it's doable before the market opens.
     
    #104     Feb 1, 2008
  5. Thurgood

    Thurgood

    why on earth would they allow someone to bust a trade the next day? What reason would I possibly give? I use Fidelity (yes I know, moving to IB next week)
     
    #105     Feb 1, 2008
  6. Guess you can't then.


    I've done it a handful of times with my scottrade account, usually to the effect of limit orders that triggered but "should not have". The quicker you call them the more likely it is to happen.



    Regards,
     
    #106     Feb 1, 2008
  7. I definitely believe you have a lot of $$$ on this trade and are praying it works for you.. Save yourself your money and reduce your size. I'm long at an avg price of 533 and resting just fine.
     
    #107     Feb 1, 2008
  8. I'm not praying - prayer has no place in trading.

    I spent 18 months learning, testing, and developing carious trading algorithms and from day one they all started with risk management. If the system's see a tape they don't like, they shutdown for the session. Maybe that's playing it _too_ safe, and someday I hope to have code that allows the system's to catch a moving train, but right now I'm pleased with them getting on at the station.(read: opening bell.)



    Kind Regards,
     
    #108     Feb 1, 2008
  9. nice.. what is your system designed around? (more simplisticly, trend follow? mean reversion? etc) What application are you using?
     
    #109     Feb 1, 2008
  10. Simply put, it correlates price-action/volume of the equity with the action in the option chain for a specific time horizon. It attempts to identify what I call 'inflection points' in the chains and uses mutiple algorithms to confirm and exploit the action. The core is a general bias in the data it analyzes: I give it 2 inputs: the issue(GOOG in this case) and a bias(down in this case) and it does the rest. You read that right: it's not totally automated: just the trade executions are. The human, me, still tells it which direction to look.

    It's 100% Java - my favorite language.



    Kind Regards,


    edit: a little more info. the distribution is 50% near-month, 20% point1, 20% point2 and 10% point3. The system will roll the contracts every month if the near-month gets too close to expiration and is otm or close the trade if it's itm and roll to the next month.
     
    #110     Feb 1, 2008