i'm noob got an idea

Discussion in 'Trading' started by thenewguy1, Jun 16, 2017.

  1. it seems that you guys took my 'i came up with this genius idea' thing at face value and didnt pick up on the sarcasm

    i also seem to be taking heat for not having a predetermined exit point, but dont i have one of those when i say sell at 15?
     
    #11     Jun 17, 2017
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  2. Humpy

    Humpy

    You could put in a stop loss e.g. $14 but it may take years to get there and then rise. The markets can spike suddenly !
    Personally I get fidgety after waiting 1 hour but that is just me.
    I guess you may have a day job . so an EOD look would be OK.
    No one has dared to corner the silver market since the Hunts some years ago but one will come along.
    A good piece of advice is - don't let the criticism get you angry because then you will dismiss it all and learn nothing.
     
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    #12     Jun 17, 2017
  3. java

    java

    Accepting this and identifying it is understanding the true risk. Being aware of what it will take to wipe you out is understanding and accepting the risk. Knowing the risk of ruin and knowing eventually the risk of ruin could be realized, maybe today, maybe not quite in the traders short lifetime. But eventually. That is the risk. I would not want to trade any strategy if that risk is not clearly identified and understood and accepted. I see no way to consistently make money with a strategy that does not have a clear and identifiable risk of ruin so I know what risk I am accepting. They call it risk of ruin, but inevitable ruin is more like it.
     
    #13     Jun 17, 2017
  4. do you guys know of any good podcasts or youtubers to listen to? so far everything ive heard has been all fluff and no substance
     
    #14     Jun 17, 2017
  5. java

    java

    If they can talk about it it's all fluff. Check out the MIT website, you might find some useful information there if you have a math background.
     
    #15     Jun 17, 2017
  6. thanks for all your helpful advice java!
     
    #16     Jun 17, 2017
  7. Humpy

    Humpy

    Concentrate on the Fundamentals. They move markets but not always in the expected way.
     
    #17     Jun 18, 2017
  8. oh i wasnt trying to listen for that purpose, i meant use them to learn
     
    #18     Jun 18, 2017
  9. 'Chat With Traders' ?
     
    #19     Jun 19, 2017
  10. New Guy, You can place a limit order to buy the stock when it reaches your desired buy price. You can also set a stop, which will automatically sell the stock for you if it takes a huge dive. You can also place a limit sell order to sell at your high price. Lastly, some platforms will allow you to place a sell order if condition x, or condition y occurs. I know Scottrade does this.

    So you can set a limit order to buy at $10. Then you can set a conditional sell order that will sell when the stock dives to $9 (to prevent a loss), or when it rises to $12 so you collect a profit.

    Then the question that you need to answer is if enough $10 levels, and $12 levels will occur to make you enough money to offset the losses when it falls to $9. You only need to win more than about half to make money. You may find that buying at $10 and selling at only $10.50 will make you more money in the long run since the stock will hit $10.50 much more often than it will rise to $12 or fall to $9. You just need to look at past history and never stop evaluating whether things have changed.

    SM
     
    #20     Jun 20, 2017