Ignorance on display - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Apr 1, 2019.

  1. UsualName

    UsualName

    No. Her political views are marginal in the Democratic Party. On the outskirts. She certainly is not on the news I watch with an regularity. But I don’t watch cable news with any regularity.

    I don’t think you’re right about the gaffe thing either, she takes time to correct herself. You should check her Twitter, she updates her statements all of the time.

    But all of the above means nothing if you think Bernie is a sweetheart idealist and AOC simpleminded and reckless.

    Ms. AOC is part of a larger, systematic attempt to push the democrats leftward economically. You writing her off as some bumpkin who hasn’t thought things through shows you really don’t know what your talking about with AOC and larger Bernie movement.
     
    #41     Apr 2, 2019
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I'm not writing her off at all. I just think it is a good thing (for the right) the more she is in the public eye.

    On the gaffe thing, we'll have to agree to disagree. If she corrects her mistakes on twitter after saying them out in public (I'm not going to go look at her twitter stream, for the love of God) then it makes it even worse that she's so "ready, fire, aim". If she were really dangerous, she'd call out the truth - and there's plenty of that to stir up the populace, not shoot her mouth off and then have to look like an idiot.
     
    #42     Apr 2, 2019
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    #43     Apr 2, 2019
  4. AOC and Bernie have both daid they believe industry NOT the GOVERNMENT should control the means of production. Whatever they believe in, it is not socialism. the Bern got too familiar with the toxic word decades back, AOC is 29 and could have stepped over that trap but in this darn world it is getting her hate from the right and media coverage at levels President Trump must admire.
     
    #44     Apr 2, 2019
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yes.... Bernie and AOC believe INDUSTRY should be regulated to do exactly what their overlords in GOVERNMENT believe. Not really a free market.
     
    #45     Apr 2, 2019
  6. You say most of us. I have read things from some on the right who post here that are factually incorrect repeatedly and there is little to nothing done to correct this by the right. The last two things I read from this GWBtrading for example just said 10% of Canadians have travelled to the USA for medical procedures with no source. I work with a lot of Canadians and not possible, it is unlikely even if all medical procedures in all the world (Germany, Mexico etc. where electives are cheaper were included. He posts unsourced 'facts' out of his ass a LOT and who corrects this? He made a thread yesterday where he posts some climate article from a meteorologist who included data/chart so garbage nobody could stand near the smell. But silence. Treefrogtrader is a wingnut and Infowars man is beyond help yet the right is silent.
     
    #46     Apr 2, 2019
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  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    There are numerous previous posts about the Canadian Healthcare system. I have posted facts sourced from the Canadian government and media sources such as the National Post which has covered the issues with Canadian healthcare in depth. Most of this was in response to nine_ender who seems to be incapable of comprehending facts put out by his own government. You are welcome to go back and read all the posts which include links to all the statistic, facts and government data -- including Canadian government data which stated that 10% of Canadians have deliberately traveled to the U.S. for medical or health services at least once in their lives.

    I regularly post links to support the facts I assert. At this point I can only assume that you are another alias for nine_ender or one of the other clowns in this forum attempting to be abusive. Another sad fail on your part.

    Crossing the Border for Care
    Frustrated by long waits, some Canadians are heading to the U.S. for medical treatment.
    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-co...dians-increasingly-come-to-us-for-health-care

    Leaving Canada for Healthcare

    https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/leaving-canada-for-medical-care-2015.pdf

    Leaving Canada for Healthcare 2017
    https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/leaving-canada-for-medical-care-2017


    Why Canadians Are Increasingly Seeking Medical Treatment Abroad

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/canadian-medical-tourism_n_5949b405e4b0db570d3778ff

    Canadians Come to America for Better Care
    They come to Arizona for six months every winter and get their medical care here, where the wait time is shorter.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/canadians-come-to-america-for-better-care-1514410218
     
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    #47     Apr 2, 2019
  8. piezoe

    piezoe

    Actually, while I'm no presidential historian, FDR was elected three times. But he left office in a casket with plenty of time on his third term, they were, it seems rushing to get the amendment ratified in time to preclude any possibility of his running for a fourth term. Looks to me like the timing is a close call. Probably her choice of words isn't the best. I doubt the amendment would have been applied retroactively were he still in his third term when the amendment was ratified, but who knows. There can at least be no question that FDR provided the inspiration for those pushing the amendment.
     
    #48     Apr 2, 2019
  9. piezoe

    piezoe

    When was it introduced exactly? Feb. 1947. right? FDR died April 12, 1945. So GWB is correct on this one. They couldn't have 'kicked him out' with the amendment because it wasn't introduced until well after Truman was President. It is generally acknowledged that FDR was the inspiration behind the amendment. Score GWB 1 AOC 0 on this one!
     
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    #49     Apr 2, 2019
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    First let's correct this with the correct facts - FDR won election for his third term in 1940. FDR won election for his fourth term in 1944. He died on April 12, 1945.

    No amendment legislation to limit the number of terms a President could serve until after FDR was dead. Certainly the legislation (driven by Republicans) was to eliminate any President in the future from serving more than two terms -- a practice which was a custom in the U.S. but was not part of the Constitution until the 22nd amendment was passed.
     
    #50     Apr 2, 2019