If you want to fail as a trader, study TA

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by The Expert, Apr 27, 2010.

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  1. That's a great piece of art, very aesthetically pleasing, probably got something to do with the golden ratio...:D
     
    #611     May 14, 2010
  2. Yeah.........they look slightly different. Here's the same data as your chart just different bars.

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    #612     May 14, 2010
  3. I don't know why you two are banging on about charts, a chart is just a graphic depiction of numerical data, a visual aid to analysis.

    How you set them up is down to your personal preference but the numbers are the same.
     
    #613     May 14, 2010
  4. NQ 5 minute looks pretty orderly.

    NQ 1 minute middle of day looks like a complete mess, huge ranges, all over the place.

    They contain the same data though.

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    #614     May 14, 2010
  5. Too tired to get into Mandelbrot & fractals so I'll bid thee good night, (not that anyone seems to be paying me the blindest bit of notice anyhow):cool:
     
    #615     May 14, 2010
  6. Because my brain doesn't seem to like them. Just last night I was looking at the NASDAQ and never even noticed until yesterday how wide the daily ranges became before the fall.

    I'm constantly zooming in & out on charts and I'll miss a move and look back later and say oh look that was obvious support on the 15 minute chart, but I didn't notice it on my 1 minute chart.

    I'd like to have a computer programmed to talk to me.
    "Resistance approaching - 60 min".
    "Bars are really narrow dude".
    "Volume is extremely low"
    "just hit the last weeks high; careful of reversal"
    Any programmers here?
     
    #616     May 14, 2010
  7. I'm listening to you if it makes you feel better.
    I'm just on a chart-hating rant !!! :)
    Maybe I'll learn to love them someday.

    Mandelbrot & fractals sounds not so good. No more info can fit in my head. Going crazy !!!
     
    #617     May 14, 2010
  8. Well to be fair Mac you'd stand a better chance of spotting Ex-Con (expansion, contraction) volatility range on a squashed chart than on a spread sheet.

    Like I said it's down to preference, personally I don't look at anything smaller than 5 mins, too much noise on the ones & twos IMO.

    Mandelbrot Set & Fractals:
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    Night night.
     
    #618     May 14, 2010
  9. If you are using TradeStation, their EasyLanguage is a relatively easy lingo to code in, so you should be able to make some helpers for when you nod-off in front of the screen.

    All charting packages have some stuff you can use these days, though frankly the line-drawing tools are many times good enough.
     
    #619     May 14, 2010
  10. That's another thing. What should I be using for daytrading stocks? 1 minute, 5 minute, volume chart?

    On that 5 minute chart I posted I can see the nice short opp when it retraced up to a resistance level in the middle of the day. I can see the higher lows which occurred before the move up at the end of the day.

    On the 1 minute chart I see a big mess, but I get the impression that good daytraders use a 1 minute chart or similar for the extra detail. I really don't know though.

    TE.............you have all the experience.........what's a good chart for daytrading stocks?
     
    #620     May 14, 2010
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