If you knew when the next major down move will be

Discussion in 'Trading' started by El Guapo, Apr 8, 2009.

  1. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    exactly.

    imagine taking an out of character trade in size the day before a major event on far otm index puts...don't let the cell door hit you on the way in :D

    im not saying it doesn't get done, im just saying a high probabilty that you will be red flagged.
     
    #11     Apr 8, 2009
  2. Strange! Why should I get flagged? Come on, a major down move mean others, many others are also betting down as well. So, if hundreds firms close positions or open to short, and the market moves down on that particular day, then we'll all get flagged. wft! I'd be following the herd, whats wrong with that? How is that a crime?

     
    #12     Apr 8, 2009
  3. Are these others all betting everything they have and getting the EXACT DAY correct?

    No one said it's NECESSARILY a crime, but you will get investigated. And if the investigation leads to some info that isn't kosher, you will be fucked.


     
    #13     Apr 8, 2009
  4. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    exactly....look at my initial post. I said you open yourself up to being investigated...that's all...


    http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2007/2007-93.htm

    this trade was flagged which eventually lead them to WANGSTER..
     
    #14     Apr 8, 2009
  5. Mvic

    Mvic

    More chance of being flagged on individual issues where an influential MM would make a stink to try and break the trades. On OTM Index Puts unlikely the OP would have the size to be noticed. Guys who loaded up on $100K+ FOTM index puts before the '87 crash didn't get investigated.
     
    #15     Apr 8, 2009
  6. promagma

    promagma

    Or consider futures ..... if your overall trading is profitable, the tax rate for the futures is around 10% lower than stocks/options.
     
    #16     Apr 8, 2009
  7. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    more power to him then....good luck el guapo.

    p.s. there is only room for 1 guapo in ET....:D
     
    #17     Apr 8, 2009
  8. Thanks for your help guys.
     
    #18     Apr 8, 2009
  9. Yes, and it is I.
     
    #19     Apr 8, 2009
  10. options on futures get the same treatment as futures for taxes
     
    #20     Apr 8, 2009