If you had to start over...

Discussion in 'Trading' started by David's faith, Sep 12, 2022.

Where would you put in the most effort to learn it.

  1. Portfolio management

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  2. Correlation matrix

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  3. Price action

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  4. Statistics

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  1. MarkBrown

    MarkBrown


    i could write a book on the fallacies of back testing they are so numerous.

    in a nutshell back testing platforms will give you results than are not realistic if you use them wrong.

    most all people misuse back testing without knowing it, the number one problem is using limit orders.

    when using limit orders you will most often see great systems results that can not be replicated in real trading.

    back testing is great i use it all the time but i do so with the knowledge of all the pitfalls. m
     
    #21     Sep 12, 2022
  2. Hello stochastix,

    Depends on what you are looking for.
     
    #22     Sep 12, 2022
  3. Hello MarkBrown,

    I agree, many times I thought I hit the lottery in back test, only to find out I was still poor in forward testing.
     
    #23     Sep 12, 2022
  4. taowave

    taowave

    Sounds like you should write a book on dum dum backtesters,not back testing

     
    #24     Sep 12, 2022
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  5. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    I would tell my younger self to look at trades as a sequence to scale into vs one-shot decisions..

    Eg instead of buy 600 at $23, buy 200 @$23, 200 @$23.4, 200@$23.8. type of thinking... so yeah position management is key

    And wide range clean charts.

    And hookers n blow for the up weeks (jk)
     
    #25     Sep 12, 2022
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  6. spooz

    spooz

    Price is not random, but time is. That invalidates all back testing (curve fitting) on time based indicators.
     
    #26     Sep 12, 2022
  7. How is time random?

    You mention indicators. Something I don’t really use.

    You can back-test / back-check historical prices manually. No indicators needed.

    If you have a statistical model (which I have), you can use that model to make your tests or studies.

    Curve-fitting or optimizing classical indicators seems like a waste of time. Not my idea of back-testing / checking.
     
    #27     Sep 12, 2022
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  8. deaddog

    deaddog

    If I use back testing it's to prove that whatever bright idea I just had doesn't work. If I can't prove that it doesn't work then I'll forward test the idea.

    Have a theory; backtest it over a period of time.
    Now back test it over a different period of time.
    Now back test it on a different market or different asset.
     
    #28     Sep 12, 2022
  9. mikeriley

    mikeriley

    Understanding how FOMC, CPI, interest rates,
    employment data, and GDP expectations and actual
    numbers move the markets is something I wish
    I paid more attention to.

    I can struggle all week, and make it back and
    more when I'm on the right side of economic
    data.
     
    #29     Sep 12, 2022
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  10. Overnight

    Overnight

    Ain't that the truth. FA all the way.
     
    #30     Sep 12, 2022