If you could go back in time to when you were a new trader

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by TheGreatGorilla, Jan 10, 2014.

  1. I never said I was providing anything groubdbreaking here, or that money management is the only answer. :confused:

    It's just one thing I wish I knew. Chill.
     
    #51     Jan 11, 2014
  2. He means that market conditions will eventually change at some point, making most (but not all) strategies not work at some point, for a certain period.

    Look at the dot-com bubble for example. Julian Robertson of Tiger Fund was getting his ass handed to him, because he was mostly fundamentals, and his trading strategy (or theory) was to bring stocks (or whatever financial vehicle) to their appropriate price, and profit off of the move.

    During the bubble, this was not working (because stupid investors kept inflating prices), and Julian was losing money hand over fist. The people who were making money at the time, were trend traders, who followed daily momentum.

    But, eventually the bubble popped, and we all know what happened, so, Julian was right, it just took a while. :D
     
    #52     Jan 11, 2014
  3. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Sorry, no. Price is self-correcting. Therefore, if one has a consistently profitable trading plan based on price behavior, his edge will never fail. Never.

    As for people arguing about TA and trendfollowing, given that they can't even agree on what TA and TF are, their arguments are not particularly compelling.
     
    #53     Jan 11, 2014
  4. I agree completely with 4, 5, and 6.
     
    #54     Jan 11, 2014
  5. How does your simplicity deal with the following:

    240min has an uptrending 20 ema

    60min has a flat 20 ema.

    15min has a downtending 20 ema

    3min has an uptrending 20 ema
     
    #55     Jan 11, 2014
  6. foozler

    foozler

    Not surprising that two of the most useful posters on ET would think to respond in kind. My other favorite, geez, would feel the same way, I suppose.

     
    #56     Jan 11, 2014
  7. If I had to go back to the first day I'd tell myself not to over trade or cross the spread all the time,churning the account in small ranges. Trade products with good range in relation to spread and commission.

    In other words don't have a 10 tick tgt and 10 tick stop .... with a 1 tick spread that is 10% of the trade going to the house not including commission. Don't be a dumby and churn your account making only your broker money.

    Unless one has a very robust method on smaller timeframes it is tough to beat costs like the high volume or exchange members and be able to compete on that level. Broaden the timeframe or range a bit is what I'd say.

    Keep costs of doing business low.
     
    #57     Jan 11, 2014
  8. KDASFTG

    KDASFTG

    Greetings All,

    Great Googa Mooga…..as my Sainted Pop used to say when he heard something exceptional. It’s been said before and I’ll say it again; ET is one hell of a treasure hunt!

    And BigHog's missive just proved my point once again. Talk about a true "Gemstone" or “Diamond in the Rough”. It just doesn’t get any better than this!

    “Diamond in the Rough” Definition:
    Something that has hidden exceptional characteristics and/or future potential, but currently lacks the final touches that would make them (or it) truly stand out from the crowd.

    I hope you come to realize that BigHog just pointed out a real “biggie” today, as he has before. And just like a “diamond in the rough”, their true beauty as jewels is only realized through the “Cutting and Polishing” process. But as he also pointed out:

    “The answer is well known but is so darn simple many believe it just "can't be that freaking easy”.

    In my opinion, if you are wise, you will pick up this gemstone and get busy “Cutting and Polishing” and make the final touches, so that this gem’s true beauty will be all your own.

    If indicators are not your thing, and you desire another similar approach, then I seriously suggest you study and use the DBPhoenix Trend Line,…it accomplishes the same thing.

    By the way, BigHog also said that: “Mere trend lines alone are NOT GOOD ENOUGH for a trend following strategy because trend lines change to freaking much”.

    I tend to agree! The fact of the matter is that,...mere trend lines will not cut the mustard. However, what DB and his folks are doing with trend lines in his threads, is nothing short of outstanding technical excellence in action, and I've been around the block a while. And the guy even gives the stuff away for free.

    Finally….words to the wise: “When the long-term experiences of multiple people are very similar, I consider applying their ideas to my own life.”…Good counsel........smile.

    KDASFTG
     
    #58     Jan 11, 2014
    damnpenguins, zbestoch and game like this.
  9. My experiences align with what you say. I have a PA system that is objectively quantified and I only trade this price action pattern (appears across many time frames but it changes from day to day, meaning the "good" time frames adjust day to day). So far this has been working for almost 15 years. Sure, volatility changes and I adjust my profit tgts to try and maximize profits however the core components of the method havent been altered since late '99.

     
    #59     Jan 11, 2014
  10. i think i read that somewhere in college.
    "will never fail" sounds like famous last words
     
    #60     Jan 11, 2014