if you are a republican and even fox news calls you a liar.you might have a problem.

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Free Thinker, Aug 30, 2012.

  1. Fox News' Sally Kohn: Paul Ryan's RNC Speech 'Was Attempt To Set World Record For Blatant Lies'

    According to Fox News columnist Sally Kohn, vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan's speech at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday "was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech."

    "On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold," Kohn wrote.
    In a surprising move, Fox News joined CNN, The Huffington Post, the Washington Post's Wonkblog, and ThinkProgress in publishing a fact-check of the Republican vice presidential nominee's speech, finding that the speech was full of lies and misleading assertions.

    Kohn, who describes herself as a "progressive voice on Fox News," wrote in her Thursday column that though Ryan came off as likable during his speech, his misrepresentations and omissions "caused a much larger problem for himself and his running mate."

    In contrast, several Fox News commentators praised Ryan's speech on air after the event, without mentioning his misleading claims, according to Media Matters.

    In her column, Kohn called out four lies in Ryan's speech. She critcized Ryan for blaming President Obama for the shutdown of a General Motors plant in Janesville, Wis., that actually was closed during the Bush administration. She also knocked Ryan for pinning the blame for S&P's downgrade of U.S. debt on Obama, when Republicans in Congress helped precipitate the downgrade by threatening to refuse to raise the debt ceiling.

    "The good news is that the Romney-Ryan campaign has likely created dozens of new jobs among the legions of additional fact checkers that media outlets are rushing to hire to sift through the mountain of cow dung that flowed from Ryan’s mouth," Kohn wrote.

    You can read Sally Kohn's full takedown of Paul Ryan's speech for Fox News here
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/30/fox-news-sally-kohn-paul-ryan_n_1842580.html
     
  2. From FOX directly, the horses mouth:

    "2. Deceiving
    On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold."


    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/#ixzz253cnahBe
     
  3. well, republicans know their target audience is not big on critical thought so it is probably still effective.
     
  4. If they know they can create Obamacare first,vote for bailouts,unfunded medicare expansion,unfunded wars,unfunded tax cuts and other polices that led to trillion dollar deficits and then tell republican voters they are fiscal conservatives and that Obamacare is evil and most of those republican voters will believe them they know they can continue to lie their asses off

    I doubt there was ever a presidential campaign that lies as much as Romney/Ryan
     
  5. This is what Ryan said
    ____________________
    Especially in Janesville where we were about to lose a major
    factory. A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at
    that G.M. plant. Right there at that plant, candidate Obama
    said, ``I believe that if our government is there to support you,
    this plant will be here for another 100 years.''
    That's what he said in 2008. Well, as it turned out, that
    plant didn't last another year. It is locked up and empty to
    this day
    ____________________
    Ryan never blamed Obama for shutting the plant. he blamed Obama for saying that with Government support, Janesville will be there for 100 more years. That was a lie.

    Ryan stressed many times that Washington is lacking leadership.
    The s&p downgrade was lack of leadership.
    Romney was able to run his state with 85% of his Congress of another party. Romney did have to go further left then normal to make deals because of the huge majorities.
    Obama only needed at most 7 votes to pass policy. As much as the Republicans could stick together there are issues that should be able to peel some votes away.

    The main problem with Obama is that he keep losing a few Congressmen votes of his own party.

    Obama does not know how to horse trade.
     
  6. FOX news, fair and balanced. Will we see such a stinging critique of the Obama administration coming from MSNBC?
     
  7. Actually, somebody should fact check the fact checker.

    the plant closed in april of 2008.

    Any guess at who was President there?

    It took me about 1 minute to find that info.
     
  8. I thought fox news was nothing but a bunch of lies anyway?

    Are they telling the truth as long as the message agrees with your ideology?

    Funny stuff.
     
  9. :D

    Obama was elected in November, sir.
     
  10. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Well in his defense, what would you expect from an affirmative action community organizer?
     
    #10     Aug 30, 2012