If you are a day trader with a persistent edge, are you a millionaire yet?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Blitzjoker, Oct 24, 2020.

  1. deaddog

    deaddog

    Yogi Berra said :In theory; theory and practice are the same; in practice they ain't"
     
    #171     Jun 21, 2021
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  2. except that such systems don't work because the return premia gets arb'd out over time. The only successful day traders out there supply liquidity during shocks and are great at doing that, but it's not a system that you described, and it is not an easy strategy to run. And most of those guys are barely at 7 digits over multi-decade trading careers. Day trading is not how to make a lot of money lol.
     
    #172     Jun 21, 2021
  3. Some people want to dream that 180% annually is a modest target for scalpers (LOL!!!!!!!) ...:vomit:
     
    #173     Jun 21, 2021
  4. Tradex

    Tradex

    I mean his perfect system captures the whole yearly range (2000 pips) in two trades (entry-exit), each year, regardless of high/low location, sorry for the mix up.
     
    #174     Jun 21, 2021
  5. Tradex

    Tradex

    Ok, fair enough, let's try with a more "reasonable" number: your not so perfect system captures "only" 40% of the yearly range and "only" 40% of the intraday range.

    The long-term system is now making 800 pips each year and the day-trading system is making 250 (days) times 40 pips = 10 000 pips per year.

    And again, we notice that the day-trader is making 12.5 times more money than the long-term trader, using the same exact system.

    Bottom line : all things being equal (same winning trading system) day-traders will always beat the crap out of long-term traders (also called "investors").
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2021
    #175     Jun 22, 2021
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  6. deaddog

    deaddog

    What I notice is that the day trader has nothing but winning days.

    These perfect traders with the perfect system are kind of like unicorns and big foot; you hear about them from time to time but no one has ever proven that they exist.

    I have tried to find one. I googled successful day traders; Nada! There seem to be a few on YouTube but no one believes their story's. While I was looking I stumbled on this:

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    #176     Jun 22, 2021
  7. Tradex

    Tradex

    The long-term trader too, you did not notice?
    He captures 40% of the yearly range every year.
     
    #177     Jun 22, 2021
  8. deaddog

    deaddog

  9. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    #179     Jun 22, 2021
  10. maxinger

    maxinger