if volatility wears you out

Discussion in 'Trading' started by mikeenday, Sep 26, 2011.

  1. One makes money in the market by:

    a) doing what your not supposed to
    b) not doing what you most want to do
    c) having a high tolerance for pain


    There's your edge...
     
    #11     Sep 27, 2011
  2. You mean like paper traders like yourself who call everything AFTER it happens?
     
    #12     Sep 28, 2011
  3. Donkey kong. Last 2 months in the US Equities indexes look like a one minute chart in congestion from across the room. Then you zoom in and realize the trading range is 8%. Now we have a downsloping trading range. The spoos need to hold 1200 to breakout and the end of the month is nigh. Not looking good for october. We may be entering a good multi-month long sson as we could really take off to the upside with all the cash sloshing around looking for a home but first we need to break this trading range and the best way is for a downside break throuh 1100 in the spoos then a rally Late Fall into Xmas and January.
     
    #13     Sep 28, 2011
  4. A-No1

    A-No1

    i prefer the decade candle. don't like being strapped to the screen scalping the weekly.
     
    #14     Sep 28, 2011
  5. no time frame is large enough for this inane volatility...

    lol
     
    #15     Sep 28, 2011
  6. http://www.barchart.com/charts/stocks/$MMTW

    Look at last 6 weeks. Looks like a shotgun blast. Volatility smoking hot. But clearly there is no consolidation on the downside to sustain a long-term rally. Nervous and jittery. "Investors are leaving the building" what few are left and the traders are knocking it around like a pinata at a 10 year olds birthday party while the adults are getting drunk off their asses......
     
    #16     Sep 28, 2011
  7. Redneck

    Redneck

    Had two other thoughts on volatility (and yes it was painful)



    Volatility covers (makes up for) poor trading skills - don’t believe me, wait and see

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    Second thought

    This volatility is not like the volatility of 07/08 – that was panic

    This is more like a wounded animal thrashing about

    Imo the mkt is feeding off itself (new money coming in – is/ has dried up – significantly)

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    Margin requirements for gold traders has been increased a couple of times, no doubt forcing some to liquidate

    And no doubt the margin will rise again, and again…..

    Long term bonds being held artificially low

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    Wonder where the powers that be want to see that money go

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    In the meantime – US may offer some support to Europe (that’ll be good for the $ - not)


    All the while – John and Jane Q Public’s 401 dwindle


    Housing was the biggest house of card in recent memory… have to wonder if even a bigger one isn’t forming in front of our very noses

    May we live in interesting times

    RN
     
    #17     Sep 29, 2011
  8. wildchild

    wildchild

    In my system there is no such thing as a 5 sigma move. If you your system has one, it is way to slow and no where near dynamic enough to be profitable.
     
    #18     Sep 29, 2011
  9. bone

    bone

    Your mathematical understanding of percentages ( by definition for a sampling size it is a fraction or ratio of 100 ) is about as accurate as your market commentary.
     
    #19     Sep 29, 2011
  10. guess you have no respect for yourself or you wouldn't make statements so easily disproved.

    that's ok, your family still loves you. right?
     
    #20     Sep 29, 2011