If Tea Partiers are such deluded fools, why are they doing so well?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Trader666, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. Yannis

    Yannis

    You Don't Have to be Crazy to be a Democrat, But it Helps
    by Ann Coulter


    "With the media sneering about the Tea Party candidates being a bunch of nuts, how about we take a look at some of the Democrats running this year?

    We've got Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank, who personally presided over the housing crash after getting that gay prostitution business behind him. Of course, Frank's actions are nothing compared to Republican Senate candidate Rand Paul's alleged participation in a college prank. Now, THERE'S a scandal!

    California Sen. Barbara Boxer refuses to say whether a newborn baby is a human life. When Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Penn., asked her on the Senate floor a few years ago whether she believed a baby born alive has a constitutionally protected a right to live, Boxer was stuck for an answer. Her nonresponsive replies included these:

    "I support the Roe v. Wade decision. ...

    "I think when you bring your baby home, when your baby is born -- and the baby belongs to your family and has all the rights. ...

    "Define 'separation' ...

    "You mean the baby has been birthed and is now in its mother's arms? ...

    "The baby is born when the baby is born. That is the answer to the question. ...

    "I am not answering these questions! I am not answering these questions!"

    (Also, I think she said: "Please call me 'senator.'")

    That's not Patty Murray-stupid, but it's still pretty stupid. How many late-term abortions are you planning to get, Californians, that it's worth being represented by such a cretinous woman?

    Even if you are under the misimpression that Boxer's Republican opponent, Carly Fiorina, is somehow going to outlaw abortion in California, Carly will cut your taxes so much that you'd be able to fly to Sweden for all your abortions and still come out ahead!

    Liberals are indignant that Sarah Palin writes speech notes to herself on her hand. This week, Alex Sink, the Democratic candidate for governor in Florida, was slipped a debating point by her makeup artist, texted by a campaign aide in violation of the rules during a debate with her Republican opponent, Rick Scott.

    Oh, those thick Tea Party candidates!

    Last weekend, Illinois governor Pat Quinn -- Rod Blagojevich's running mate -- stood silently as his supporter, state Sen. Rickey Hendon, blasted Quinn's Republican opponent, Bill Brady, as "idiotic, racist, sexist, homophobic."

    Hendon has repeatedly made headlines over the past few years for his inappropriate behavior toward female colleagues. Once -- during a Senate debate -- he asked Sen. Cheryl Axley if her hair was naturally blond and then publicly propositioned her.

    Another time, Hendon tackled Rep. Robin L. Kelly, knocking her to the ground after a House-Senate softball game she had come to watch in office attire.

    Of the impeccable Brady, Hendon wailed: "If you think that women have no rights whatsoever, except to have his children, vote for Bill Brady. If you think gay and lesbian people need to be locked up and shot in the head, vote for Bill Brady."

    Even the Chicago press was shocked by this, calling on Quinn to apologize. Quinn has "renounced" Hendon's remarks, but refused to apologize.

    But watch out for the Tea Party candidates! There are some real loose cannons in that bunch.

    Also last week, Rep. Ron Klein, Democrat of Florida, hysterically claimed he had been "threatened" by one of the Vietnam Veteran bikers supporting his Republican opponent, Allen West.

    The man who had allegedly "threatened" Klein is 60 years old and goes by the terrifying name of ... "Miami Mike." Mike told the Miami Herald that he had simply e-mailed Klein, saying that he deserved to be voted out of office and, in addition, he needed "a good ass-kicking, which I'd be more than happy to do even though I'm a lot older than you."

    As Miami Mike said: "A threat? Give me a break. He cannot be scared of what I wrote. If he is, he is just a real baby."

    Apparently so. Klein turned Mike's e-mail over to the Capitol police, where they promptly burst out laughing and then ordered framed copies of the e-mail.

    Speaking of little girls in pink party dresses, Keith Olbermann has repeatedly claimed that Allen West "disgraced his uniform." Weirdly, he never gives details of how he thinks West did that. (Maybe Olbermann could check on war-zone protocol with fake-Vietnam War veteran Dick Blumenthal, who's running for the Senate from Connecticut by lying about having served in Vietnam.)

    As a colonel in Iraq, West was interrogating an Iraqi terrorist who knew about a planned ambush. Unable to get him to talk, West shot a gun near the terrorist's head, whereupon the frightened but unharmed detainee spilled the beans.

    Because of that, West's men were able to capture a potential attacker and identify future ambush sites. There were no further attacks on West's men.

    As West later told The New York Times, "There are rules and regulations, and there's protecting your soldiers." He said, "I just felt I'd never have to write a letter of condolence home to a 'rule and regulation.'"

    When the Army considered court-martialing West, thousands of letters poured in defending West and thanking him for what he had done. Ninety-five members of Congress signed a letter to the secretary of the Army in support of West. No court-martial was ever convened.

    Liberals won't say that John Phillip Walker Lindh disgraced his country. Washington Sen. Patty Murray thinks Osama bin Laden is a swell guy for building "day care centers" in Afghanistan. But they say a hero like Allen West "disgraced his uniform" by saving the lives of American soldiers.

    Yeah, the Tea Party candidates are a real embarrassment."
     
    #21     Oct 28, 2010
  2. Humpy

    Humpy

    For those that may not be fully up to speed on the TPs here are their principles :-


    The Contract lists 10 agenda items that it encourages congressional candidates to follow:[95][96]

    1.Identify constitutionality of every new law: Require each bill to identify the specific provision of the U.S. Constitution that gives Congress the power to do what the bill does. (82.03%)
    2.Reject emissions trading: Stop the "cap and trade" administrative approach used to control carbon dioxide emissions by providing economic incentives for achieving reductions in the emissions of carbon dioxide. (72.20%)
    3.Demand a balanced federal budget: Begin the Constitutional amendment process to require a balanced budget with a two-thirds majority needed for any tax modification. (69.69%)
    4.Simplify the tax system: Adopt a simple and fair single-rate tax system by scrapping the Internal Revenue Code and replacing it with one that is no longer than 4,543 words – the length of the original Constitution. (64.9%)
    5.Audit federal government agencies for constitutionality: Create a Blue Ribbon taskforce that engages in an audit of federal agencies and programs, assessing their Constitutionality, and identifying duplication, waste, ineffectiveness, and agencies and programs better left for the states or local authorities. (63.37%)
    6.Limit annual growth in federal spending: Impose a statutory cap limiting the annual growth in total federal spending to the sum of the inflation rate plus the percentage of population growth. (56.57%)
    7.Repeal the healthcare legislation passed on March 23, 2010: Defund, repeal and replace the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. (56.39%)
    8.Pass an 'All-of-the-Above' Energy Policy: Authorize the exploration of additional energy reserves to reduce American dependence on foreign energy sources and reduce regulatory barriers to all other forms of energy creation. (55.5%)
    9.Reduce Earmarks: Place a moratorium on all earmarks until the budget is balanced, and then require a 2/3 majority to pass any earmark. (55.47%)
    10.Reduce Taxes: Permanently repeal all recent tax increases, and extend current temporary reductions in income tax, capital gains tax and estate taxes, currently scheduled to end in 2011. (53.38%)
     
    #22     Oct 28, 2010
  3. He thinks he's the anitchrist and I'm the juvenile?
    Self flagellation will get you nowhere. On second thought it will get you ...there, but theres nothing like the real thing.
     
    #23     Oct 28, 2010
  4. Up to speed on TPs principles? Are you serious?

    I am not sure if Tea Party members know that their principles are contradictory. TPs seem to quote the constitution when it suits them and demand changes to the constitution when it suits their agenda. For example, have you noticed the first "principle" above is a contradiction to the third principle?

    The US Constitution never required the United States Congress to pass a balanced budget. It is also not the job of Congress to determine the constitutionality of every law that it passes.
     
    #24     Oct 28, 2010
  5. Yannis

    Yannis

    The idea is that we should respect the Constitution in everything. That includes when we think that it has to evolve in order to meet the needs of today's society. In that case, we don't just abandon it and do whatever we please, but we engage in a serious process to amend it, and that's perfectly within both spirit and letter of the country's rules. No contradiction.
     
    #25     Oct 28, 2010
  6. Humpy

    Humpy

    Very true

    Everything needs updating regularly. It's when it gets stuck in the same old rut that the wheels fall off, whether it's a country's constitution, religion, corporate philosophy or whatever.

    Upgrade or go the same way as the dinasours imho
     
    #26     Oct 28, 2010
  7. Unfortunately the "respect" for the constitution of the US by the TPs only extend only as far as it suits them and they are quick to amend anything that doesn't agree with their confused philosophy. The contradiction and confusion for TPs on the constitution is shown by this exchange between Coons and O'Donnell on the separation of church and state, where O'Donnell is questioning the existence of such a clause in the constitution:

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    #27     Oct 29, 2010
  8. Humpy

    Humpy

    Which side are the TPs on or are they standing independently ?

    Without a proportional representation voting system
    there is little hope of other views ever being expressed. A good thing too some might say but when the 2 traditional parties are really stuck for an answer then some alternative could be all important and not heard.
     
    #28     Oct 29, 2010
  9. I can't, but first sought to, make the argument that your response was contradictory.

    In fact, your argument is just stupid, a complete and utter lack of logic


    the TP platform includes going through the Constitutional process to include a Balanced Budget Amendment, and then enforcing it based on Constitutional law.

    If that's 'contradictory' you're an idiot
     
    #29     Oct 30, 2010
  10. Yannis

    Yannis

    Tea Party Music

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    :cool:
     
    #30     Nov 2, 2010