Yeah...like caging 1.5 million Palestinians in a prison called Gaza, carry out daily incursions resulting in the destruction of hundreds of homes and the death of 10s of people. And when the starved Palestinians stand up, doodoo and his gang of a state dump hundreds of 2 ton bombs on the most crowded spot on earth intending to kill as many civilians as possible in an attempt to force them to submit. Afterward, the second leg of the project kicks in by launching their propaganda campaign to show that the nazis are the victims while the ones receiving the 2 ton bombs are the victimizers.
Do not bother chasing him around. He will hit and run. He will not be held accountable for a lie he threw.
Exactly wael, Israel withdrew from Gaza 2.5 years ago, Israel did not blockade Gaza when it left, Gaza has a border with Egypt, Gaza elected Hamas, Gaza fired 7,000 rockets at Israeli civilians, Gaza broke the fence with Egypt not to bring food and medicine but to smuggle better more powerful rockets, Gaza started shooting those rockets at a bigger number of densely populated Israeli towns. According to you and your buddy Ztroll Gaza is the victim here. According to your and Ztroll's logic Iran threatening daily to wipe Israel off the map is also the victim because Israel is [still] stronger militarily. Duh!
He is not chasing me around, he is trolling (see Rearden's quote above). Israel is indeed stronger than Iran militarily at this moment so according to his idiotic logic no matter what both countries do Iran is always the victim. See wael, during the Gulf war Saddam Husein fired 70 SCAD rockets at Israel, Israel did not respond but because Israel had more military power than Iraq Israel was not the victim, Saddam was (according to your and Z10's logic of course). We were attacked on 9/11, 3000 americans were murdered by your Islamofascist brethren but because we have nukes and Al-Qaeda does not Ztroll and you believe that Al-Qaeda, not the US was the victim. It's really very simple with idiots like Ztroll and you - you are weak, you're stupid, you're losers so you always claim to be the victims even if you are the biggest and dirtiest scumbags on the planet.
We are Palestinians who lived in that land for thousands of years. On that land, not east of it, not north of it, not south of it...we lived on it! we had our homes, our farms and our lives on it. It is the same land that hosted my ancestors before me. You came from Europe, a blond with blue eyes. Why not carve a chunk of a land from their and if they complain, post a map showing your size in relation to Europe and cry to the whole world about how unfair Europe is. A coward will always beat on a weaker party. A coward will always blame the weaker party. And you are a zionists doodoo! a low life coward. Now notice how in all of their maps, they show the whole entire land mass of Palestine as israel. This is coming from zionists who are coming out claiming that he Palestinians are rejecting a two state's solution. They want to quietly steal the land and kill any Palestinian that opposes that. If a Palestinian family is wiped off in the process by the forth strongest army on earth, the excuse that they will grow up terrorists will be hand to throw at the TraderNiks of this world. This is what Daniel Levy, who served on the Israeli negotiating team at Camp David, Taba as well as the Anaiapolis said about who is rejecting the peace, putting obstacles in front of any peaceful resolution and starting the aggression. He told it all and exposed the zionist dddooos! That is why, when I confronted the coward dddooo with it, I had to chase him all over elite trader for days until I gave up on him answering. http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/7083?in=&out=
Consistent in your denseness, gotta give you that. 9/11 was an isolated event in the US, not a multi-decade long ongoing conflict between two neighboring countries. Israel projects a victim mentality to garner sympathy, to rationalize their military efforts, to justify the way they have handled the local situation. Israel either has the power to stop their enemy, or they don't. You try to make this inane case that the entire Arab world wants to destroy Israel...then why don't they? Simple question really. If they have the power to destroy Israel, if that is their goal, then why don't they just get on with it? Does Israel have the power to bomb Iran's nuclear development facilities? Of course, but why don't they do it? Would they rather just act like a victim, like some weakling defenseless entity? Whoever has the power is not a victim, but a volunteer to be victimized. If you can't understand the difference, then that also goes to your consistent denseness. Reardon has severe issues by his own admission due to his IDF experience...so if you want to embrace his coping mechanisms as some defense of your own lying and inability to reason effectively...well that would fit the profile quite nicely. You are a liar as demonstrated here: 03-14-08 04:42 PM Post a link to where I wrote: "Iran is the victim." If not, that would indicate that you just made it up without any foundation...that would be called lying...making false claims, etc. In addition, you are a racist: In case there was any doubt, the racism above should remove any. So you have shown yourself to be a liar, and a racist, and a Zionist extremist... Now does that mean that your arguments are illogical? Not necessarily, but the majority of them in this are are, and they are replete with appeals to emotionalism, reactionary thinking, denial of any possible fault by Israel, etc. If your logic says that a man who was attacked and killed all the attackers without any harm to himself was a victim...well...that is just downright delusional. The one who has the power but chooses not to exercise it is not a victim of anything but their own decisions. A willingness to subordinate power to be victimized is not something a genuine victim does. A genuine victim has no power to stop an act of victimization, and no means to defend themselves against an attempted victimization. This is clearly not he case with Israel, as they have the power to defend themselves, and they have the power to crush their enemies. They are no more victim than an elephant running scared from a mouse...
Another excellent example. He could keep living in that land for the next thousand years. Instead he refuses to accept the UN mandated partition of Palestine (which btw guaranteed and preserved his residence and his property), starts a major war, attempts to drive his neighbor into the sea, gets his ass handed to him, refuses to make peace and reconcile with his neighbor, keeps murdering the neighbor's women and children and once again plays the victim card.
This is what the terrorist Arab League agreed on on the 2002 conference and repeated again, word for word, in the latest conference in Saudi Arab! Guess who rejected that peace initiative dddooo?? 1. Requests Israel to reconsider its policies and declare that a just peace is its strategic option as well. 2. Further calls upon Israel to affirm: I- Full Israeli withdrawal from all the territories occupied since 1967, including the Syrian Golan Heights, to the June 4, 1967 lines as well as the remaining occupied Lebanese territories in the south of Lebanon. II- Achievement of a just solution to the Palestinian refugee problem to be agreed upon in accordance with U.N. General Assembly Resolution 194. III- The acceptance of the establishment of a sovereign independent Palestinian state on the Palestinian territories occupied since June 4, 1967 in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, with East Jerusalem as its capital. 3. Consequently, the Arab countries affirm the following: I- Consider the Arab-Israeli conflict ended, and enter into a peace agreement with Israel, and provide security for all the states of the region. II- Establish normal relations with Israel in the context of this comprehensive peace. 4. Assures the rejection of all forms of Palestinian patriation which conflict with the special circumstances of the Arab host countries. 5. Calls upon the government of Israel and all Israelis to accept this initiative in order to safeguard the prospects for peace and stop the further shedding of blood, enabling the Arab countries and Israel to live in peace and good neighbourliness and provide future generations with security, stability and prosperity. 6. Invites the international community and all countries and organisations to support this initiative. 7. Requests the chairman of the summit to form a special committee composed of some of its concerned member states and the secretary general of the League of Arab States to pursue the necessary contacts to gain support for this initiative at all levels, particularly from the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States of America, the Russian Federation, the Muslim states and the European Union. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For purposes of comparison, the following is an earlier draft discussed by Arab foreign ministers on 25 March, 2002, in advance of the summit: The Council of the Arab League, which convenes at the level of a summit on March 27-28, 2002 in Beirut, affirms the Arab position that achieving just and comprehensive peace is a strategic choice and goal for the Arab states. After the Council heard the statement of Crown Prince Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz in which he called for the establishment of normal relations in the context of a comprehensive peace with Israel, and that Israel declares its readiness to withdraw from the occupied Arab territories in compliance with United Nations resolutions 242 and 338 and Security Council resolution 1397, enhanced by the Madrid conference and the land-for-peace principle, and the acceptance of an independent, sovereign Palestinian state with al-Quds al-Sharif as its capital, the Council calls on the Israeli government to review its policy and to resort to peace while declaring that just peace is its strategic option. The Council also calls on Israel to assert the following: Complete withdrawal from the Arab territories occupied since 1967, including full withdrawal from the occupied Syrian Golan Heights and the remaining occupied parts of south Lebanon to the June 4, 1967 lines. To accept to find an agreed, just solution to the problem of Palestinian refugees in conformity with Resolution 194. To accept an independent and sovereign Palestinian state on the Palestinian lands occupied since June 4, 1967 in the West Bank and Gaza Strip and with Jerusalem (al-Quds al-Sharif) as its capital in accordance with Security Council Resolution 1397. In return, the Arab states assert the following: To consider the Arab-Israeli conflict over and to enter into a peace treaty with Israel to consolidate this. To achieve comprehensive peace for all the states of the region. To establish normal relations within the context of comprehensive peace with Israel. The Council calls on the Israeli government and the Israelis as a whole to accept this initiative to protect the prospects of peace and to spare bloodshed so as to enable the Arab states and Israel to coexist side by side and to provide for the coming generations a secure, stable and prosperous future. It calls on the international community with all its organisations and states to support the initiative. The Council calls on its presidency, its secretary general and its follow-up committee to follow up on the special contacts related to this initiative and to support it on all levels, including the United Nations, the United States, Russia, the European Union and the Security Council.
Notice how the coward doodoo is refusing to answer what Daniel Levi, one of the israeli negotiators in Camp David, Taba and Annapolis, said about who rejected every peace initiative, who provoked wars and who is still refusing peace!
Nonsense. Having started several wars and having lost all of them the Arabs have a peace proposal in which Israel gives up absolutely everything and they give up absolutely nothing, not even the right of return which is a non-starter in any peace negotiations. LOL, they expect Israel to agree to being overrun by 5 millions of arab "refuges" and then they will make peace with this new 24th predominantly arab country. It may be renamed to Israestan by that time though by its muslim majority. Nice try wael - a lousy PR move, an unrealistic, uncompromising and totally unacceptable proposal which only real objective was to continue playing the "victim" card - the only thing the arab world is good at. Fortunately it only works with inconsequential idiots like Ztroll and a couple of your other illiterate whiny supporters.