If Morgan Stanley goes down, will the closure rumours spread to Goldman?

To bring up the old adage "What's good for GM is good for the country", well, that is the way I have viewed GS. GS is the new GM since the decline of manu.

It wouldn't be good for GS to fail. GS is the epitome of what we do in this country, manufacture "financial instruments" using a pencil and paper.

 

Less than 24 hours of naked shorting left, the rally starts at 12 est tomorrow.

 

Forget MS and GS. Who are IBKR going to merge with? Stock below $20.

 

1) MS will be the second-to-last domino standing.
2) GS wil be the last domino standing.
3) After it falls, that will mark the "final bottom", just like the Bank Holiday in 1933. We'll see.
4) IBKR will merge with a foreign currency bucket shop.

 

I cannot imagine GS going under. I think their internal prop trading will make money off this volatility...maybe enough to survive.

 

GS traders are shorting the hell out of MS and their own stock to survive....

 

good observation. they can secure the bonuses that are paid in restricted stock

 

MER deal wasn't exactly a firesale....they recieved 50% premium. sure, they dumped their mortgage derivatives at 22c per dollar.

 

it's funny Morgan Stanley and JPM's name just fits right in......they are meant to be together lol

 

other names just don't sound right

how about Morgan & Morgan ?