If markets were random why then does volatiliy spike at certains of the day (illustration inside)

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Heydrrich, Jul 19, 2020.

  1. piezoe

    piezoe

    I think when someone states markets are random they don't know what that means, and no one else does either.
     
    #11     Jul 19, 2020
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  2. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Just like market volatility ebbs and flows, randomness and predictable each ebb and flow.

    "Timing is everything".
     
    #12     Jul 19, 2020
  3. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks


    Non-predictable and random are two different things. Just want to point that out.
     
    #13     Jul 19, 2020
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  4. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Ok make it random and non-random.
     
    #14     Jul 19, 2020
  5. tsfx

    tsfx

    I'm pretty sure your definition of randomness is...well...misleading. Markets would look a whole lot different if they were ;)

    Go on, try to define it.
     
    #15     Jul 20, 2020
  6. Heydrrich

    Heydrrich

    Price is random because it exist of tiny tiny micro decisions on a micro level timeframe ( possibly infinite) and each one of the microdecisions has a slighty better than 50/50 chance of happening. If you add those all up, you cannot know what is going to happen, the longer your prediction takes place.
     
    #16     Jul 20, 2020
  7. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    You can...if you want...ignore the low probability trade opportunities and instead trade the higher probability trade opportunities that appear within the duration you've shown in your initial graph that you've determine increases your "chance" for a successful trade.

    Let what you know about the volatility guide you...it will help navigate you around a lot of obstacles in trading.

    wrbtrader
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2020
    #17     Jul 20, 2020
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  8. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Except the decision made in each of those so-called microdecisions are not random.
     
    #18     Jul 20, 2020
  9. Heydrrich

    Heydrrich

    Well I think it depends how you structure your trade. If you take on the smallest possible unit; and have the smallest possible SL/PT, it should not be far off 50/50.
     
    #19     Jul 20, 2020
  10. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    That wasn't my point.
     
    #20     Jul 20, 2020
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