If Chewy Loses Money in July - He Will Quit Trading

Discussion in 'Journals' started by chewbacca, Jul 2, 2005.

  1. Spaceman made not have said it all, but he came close.
     
    #61     Jul 15, 2005
  2. Hey:

    I don't want to be too harsh, but this extended "goodbye" sort of reminds me of that movie "Spinal Tap" except that instead of being a really sucky musician, you're a really bad trader who for some unknown reason, doesn't want to stop until you are completly broke and living in a dumpster behind your local McDonalds.

    Also I have to ask why you don't take the steps necessary to get more (better) training?

    As I said, I don't want to be cruel, I just want to understand why you are continuing down this road? Look if you happen to be one of those folks who like to be tied up and whipped by ladies wearing leather masks, well that would sort of explain things. Otherwise, I don't get it.

    :confused:
     
    #62     Jul 15, 2005

  3. With habits like these, you're just wasting time before you blow out.
     
    #63     Jul 15, 2005
  4. Churnfest

    Gross 4
    Volume 10600
    Win% 45
    Ave Win 5
    Ave Loss -4
    Net -51.8


    AAPL -5
    EBAY 10
    KLAC 5
    NEM 3
    X -12
    XOM 3


    WTF, no volitility in the market. Basically just churned today. I'm about -9 gross for the month. I think this month will be gross positive, net negative. The only positive thing about today
    is that it's the smallest loss I've had in a very long time, which is good because I'm having bigger and more frequent winners but my daily losses remain large.
     
    #64     Jul 18, 2005
  5. 19-Jul
    Gross 32
    Volume 8900
    Win% 44
    Ave Win 10
    Ave Loss -7
    Net -12


    Traded like ten stocks today, don't want to list them all. Cut my losses all day, did have a few big ones though. But the thing that’s holding me back is not being more aggressive and patient with my wins and I'm fading way too many breakouts. I've pretty much abandoning my stock list I'm open to trading anything that's moving. July is now gross positive, I haven't had
    two straight gross losing days since the first two days of the month. Commsions keep reducing my wins and enlarging my losses, which means my wins have to be much larger I I have to be more aggressive with them.
     
    #65     Jul 19, 2005
  6. 20-Jul



    Gross 175
    Volume 7200
    Win% 47
    Ave Win 18
    Ave Loss -7
    Net 134


    Up over 300 dollars from the bottem today. Came in and just overtraded lost on every stock. Then built a huge long position in AAPL, held a huge loss before it turned around. Could've held and added for a bigger win but I'm just glad to avoid a loss today. Had my biggest win on any trade today - which is important cause you need huge wins to make it as the trader as the costs of trading are enourmous (losses, commisions, opportunity costs, etc.)
    For tommorow I just want to sit on my ass and do nothing but hunt down stocks that are making clean moves, then get in cut losses and be very aggressive if it’s a winner (my friend made 10k today doing this).
     
    #66     Jul 20, 2005
  7. Holding onto a losing stock is risky trading. Stocks don't turn around everyday. Do you have a cut off point where you would close the position. If you don't, one day you might get hit with a huge loss.


     
    #67     Jul 20, 2005
  8. Yeah, I know its stupid - this is a strategy that more often burns you more then it makes you money. But equally stupid is making a trade solely based on emotion (fear), selling at the lows, and just watching as it bottems and goes parabolic up. The right way to have played it would be to just take on 100 shares, toss it for a real small loss. And keeping doing this till it bottems, then you have a winner and start adding and getting aggressive at each new breakout level.
     
    #68     Jul 20, 2005
  9. No actually most of the time with this "strategy" you make money or lose less than following a stop loss. It's just that one or two times that will end your career


    Completely the opposite, the emotional thing to do is get vengeful and keep holding by refusing to take the loss.

    First of all, you do not even know when it bottom until after the fact. Second of all, when it does bottom, you will have to be real lucky to get any real size around that price. Third of all, what if you keep buying up as it rips and then it reverses right back down to the lows? You gonna keep holding?

    Look for your own good, re-evaluate your trading. You really are just wasting your time before you blow out. I can tell that you do not have a good concept of taking & cutting losses and risk/reward. If you hold down a loss $200 and then it comes back and you make $100, well that's a losing strategy. Grasp that concept before you worry about being shaken out. I get shaken out of correct positions almost every single trading day because I force risk control. Even though I know that it's mainly the specialist pushing the stop losses & risk tolerance of day traders, I still choose to get out and cut my loss cause you NEVER know.
     
    #69     Jul 20, 2005
  10. omniscient

    omniscient Guest

    it comes down to this:

    when that reality sets in, really sinks in and is accepted, things change.

    take care -

    omni
     
    #70     Jul 20, 2005