'Idiot-Savant' Traders?

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by Rearden Metal, Apr 1, 2006.

'Idiot-Savant' Test: www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.html How'd you score?

  1. Under 12 (Diplomat)

    20 vote(s)
    7.1%
  2. 13-25 (Pretty normal)

    118 vote(s)
    42.0%
  3. 26-31 (Almost there, but not quite)

    84 vote(s)
    29.9%
  4. 32-40 (Looks like I might be one...)

    45 vote(s)
    16.0%
  5. 41-50 (Rain Man)

    14 vote(s)
    5.0%

  1. What is really in question is the ability to overcome serotonin problems by taking serotonin supplements.

    I have seen studies that show that St. John's Wort and 5-HTP are slightly more effective than a placebo, but their effects have been highly exaggerated.

    I myself would not buy them.

    I would add that there are plenty of charlatans who make big money selling false cures (false hope) to those suffering, or who have children suffering, from Asperger's, autism, OCD, ADHD, and other related afflictions.

    They deserve a special level of their own in Dante's Inferno.
     
    #121     Jul 11, 2006

  2. Trust me, that’s not it. I know more about this topic than most physicians. The point is, raising serotonin levels is very easy- but highly ineffective at relieving clinical depression for the vast majority of patients.

    <b>Serotonin syndrome</b> is what you get when you've boosted your serotonin levels to the point where your brain has way too much of the stuff. The symptoms of serotonin syndrome are unmistakable. At one point I boosted my serotonin levels all the way up into serotonin syndrome territory- yet I was still dying of depression.

    The key to unlocking clinical depression does not lie with the neurotransmitters (Serotonin, dopamine & norepinephrine), but rather with peptides- the endogenous opioids (<b>endorphins</b>, dynorphins & enkephalins). What I'm telling you now will be common knowledge among all medical professionals, within two decades, tops.

    <b>Hundreds</b> of personal testimonials from people who have struggled with depression resulting from an endogenous opioid deficiency can be found here, here, and here.

    All of these depression patients tell a version of the exact same story, which is:

    A) I was tormented with clinical depression for years.
    B) I sought medical help, <b>tried one medication after another</b> (sometimes even ECT), and <b>nothing helped.</b> Suicide became a compelling option.
    C) Finally, I happened to try opioids, and was amazed to find that oxycodone or buprenorphine is my long awaited solution. This really works, and nothing else even comes close!
     
    #122     Jul 11, 2006
  3. No medication works for me either, nor anyone I know. Alcohol and cigarettes are as close as it comes, but they're barely tolerable at best and obviously not worth a daily habit.

    If you're right, it's unfortunate, as I doubt there will be prescription opiods available to the masses for depression treatment any time soon.
     
    #123     Jul 11, 2006
  4. MONACO11

    MONACO11

    "Kmart sucks..."
     
    #124     Jul 11, 2006
  5. pattersb

    pattersb Guest


    funny, I gain ALOT of joy by watching the birds ... gulls, sparrows, cardinels, hawks, geese, ... I especially admire the geese


    So, I'll give the $165 to the birds, they are all the therapy I need....
     
    #125     Jul 11, 2006
  6. I really hate it when aggressive birds approach me to shout their fucking insurance company recommendations.
     
    #126     Jul 11, 2006
  7. I was not referring to depression, but to those on the autism specturm. Frankly, I am no expert on depression.

    And I would agree with you that "raising serotonin levels is very easy- but highly ineffective" at addressing the serotonin connection problem at the neurotransmitter level.

    My son is severly autistic. Autism and other brain related diagnoses on the autistic specturm, it has been said, can be treated by serotonin supplements. We tried those, and they did not have any visible effect. SSRIS did help, but there were some serious side effects. He does take medication, but it helps only a little. There is no cure for autism or for anything on the autism spectrum, including Asperger's.

    I wish you the best on dealing with your depression. Sometimes insensitive people really do not understand, or try to understand, that some people have brains that are wired differently. They need to be treated with dignity and respect, nonetheless, not with mockery, discrimination, or with pity.
     
    #127     Jul 11, 2006
  8. the problem is that we don't fully understand how the brain works. It could be that one part of the persons mind is overactive, while another is unusually slow. Or every part of that person mind is average, and there is one part that is unusually active.

    And who knows it could be a skill. How do you explain tiger woods skills, or albert einstien. He was genius in physics but he failed his college entrance exams.


     
    #128     Jul 12, 2006
  9. pattersb

    pattersb Guest


    Imagine if in the Real World, all the birds sounded like Gilbert Godfried.

    Year-Round Hunting Season!



    Alright, while I'm here I'll post my last couple trades ...

    I was holding CTSH calls overnight, @67 sold um and bought Puts (News was good but not that good, plus the NAS was heading lower ...)

    God, I may be able to make this work yet ....

    :D
     
    #129     Jul 12, 2006
  10. maxpi

    maxpi

    I just try things, studies can be found to support any view you want. One advise I found was that caffeine reduces serotonin. I quit caffeine and many of the low serotonin symptoms went away after a few weeks. I had to go back on the coffee to keep up an interest in work however. I tried hyaluronic acid for bursitis of the shoulder and it largely cured it, doctors still have that one as incurable in the books I think. Worrying about charlatans is silly, only get your advice from people with MD's, PhD's or who are otherwise astute in their field and only buy supplements from companies with FDA oversight.
     
    #130     Jul 12, 2006