Ok- so anyone reading through forums about prop firms knows that there is a ton of debate about how they should carry on business (if at all) and as soon as a specific firm is mentioned it turns into a senseless screaming match that every poster is a shill, the firm is full of scammers and anyone who would do business with that firm must be an absolute moron. Furthermore, it seems that the real point of contention is whether the firm should be charging money or taking a capital deposit. Sometimes people say that anyone who does not want to trade their own money should find a different career while others say if you're not paid a salary and giving up money to begin you must be a moron. In addition to this, there is a lot of debate on how the firms themselves treat their traders. Is there any way we can have a civil discussion about a) capital deposits / training fees b) ideal buying power c) firm commissions d) environment and any other points that are recurring points of contention in the prop shop firms and can we have some valuable input about what you've experienced in your careers working with prop firms or being an independent trader? If you've worked at a prop shop feel free to list off the good and the bad that you've experienced (maybe we should stay away from naming the specific firms to prevent people from screaming YOURE A SHILL, it's really ridiculous.) Looking forward to an intelligent and helpful discussion, cheers !