Idea: use ShortSelling only

Discussion in 'Options' started by Quanto, Jan 13, 2024.

  1. Quanto

    Quanto

    The challenge is to do it in a CashAcct... :)
    Only these are possible: LongStock, LongCall, LongPut, CoveredCall (= LongStock + ShortCall), CashSecuredPut (= ShortPut + Cash), and combinations of them like LongStraddle, LongStrangle, Collar etc....

    Ie. for ShortSelling in a CashAcct one has to use CoveredCall or CashSecuredPut.
    Of course can use also both at the same time.
     
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    #11     Jan 13, 2024
  2. Quanto

    Quanto

    Does anybody know the formula for computing the combined BreakEvenPoint for 2 or more CoveredCalls with different strikes?
    I have the formula for a single CoveredCall, but for multiple differing CCs a different formula is needed.

    Btw, the CoveredCall is a substitute for a ShortPut, ie. it can also be called synthetic for ShortPut, or vice-versa.
     
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    #12     Jan 13, 2024
  3. P/L chart is useless for figuring out P/L for the wheel strategy. My spreadsheets calculations are saying if you ran the wheel with 1 contract on NVDA last year you would have averaged $1466.90 per month without put protection. This is including all assignments, fees and realized losses.
     
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    #13     Jan 13, 2024
  4. Quanto

    Quanto

    Sounds good, but how much own capital did it require for the said avg monthly result?
     
    #14     Jan 13, 2024
  5. From my brokers website:

    U.S Listed Equity and ETF Securities
    Margin Requirement

    Options eligible securities ($5.00+)
    30%

    So during the year running the wheel this would be the cash requirement based on the lowest and highest strikes you were assigned:

    Minimum cash: $15,200*30%=$4,560
    Maximum cash: $49,100*30%=$14,730

    I guess that's regular T...
     
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    #15     Jan 13, 2024
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  6. Quanto

    Quanto

    Thx, seems to be a good result, indeed.
    I hadn't time yet to code the Wheel Strategy for my test environment, but it's on my TODO list.
     
    #16     Jan 13, 2024
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  7. eleanorK80

    eleanorK80

    Interesting strategy to manage risks in options trading. Have you considered how this approach might affect your overall portfolio risk in different market conditions?
     
    #17     Jan 14, 2024
  8. Quanto

    Quanto

    Not yet, but maybe soon :)
    Why do you ask? Do you have a suspicion?
     
    #18     Jan 14, 2024
  9. BMK

    BMK

    @Quanto

    Why are you writing the names of the various strategies you are discussing without spaces in between the words?

    ShortCall

    LongPut

    ShortSelling

    CoveredCall


    WTF, Dude.

    That's not normal writing in any English-speaking country.

    Do you think these phrases somehow acquire some sort of magic power, or a different meaning, when you run them all together like that?

    Or do you just think it's somehow cool?

    It's not cool. it's weird.

    Are you using some sort of software, or computer code, or a book, or a website, that expresses the terms that way?

    You're not writing code, man. Just speak/write normal English. What you are doing looks ridiculous. :confused:
     
    #19     Jan 14, 2024
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  10. Quanto

    Quanto

    Man, you bring a really stoopid argument into the discussion. :)
    SingleWord makes more sense in this context.
    I take the liberty.
    Just eat or die, doesn't matter for me :)
     
    #20     Jan 14, 2024