Ice age data bolsters greenhouse gas, warming link

Discussion in 'Politics' started by futurecurrents, Apr 5, 2012.

  1. Explain why the growing season is getting shorter.
     
    #131     Jun 13, 2012

  2. Well as a defense lawyer, one would look for even the tiniest crack in the case and hold on for dear life with it. Perhaps it's just how he looks at things. Certainly logic and knowledge of the science aren't guiding him. It doesn't seem he trusts science at all, unless it is for out of context snippets that support his previously determined stance. Again, an attribute of a defense attorney.


    The fact he has admitted CO2 is greenhouse gas, and I think he admits it's going up, it's amusing he can't bring himself to admit the obvious and instead battles on about the historical record, volcanoes, diffusion in ice bubbles etc, as if the experts haven't thought about that already.

    Lawyers are asked to maintain untenable positions.

    They will grab even the devil's hand to prevent themselves from falling.
     
    #132     Jun 13, 2012
  3. #133     Jun 13, 2012
  4. Ricter

    Ricter

    Where do you live? It's getting longer here (gardeners and farmers are taking advantage). We're in our eighth or ninth straight month where the average monthly temperature is above the "normal" average monthly temperature.
     
    #134     Jun 13, 2012
  5. #135     Jun 13, 2012
  6. Well if you can't trust the work of thousands of the world's scientists then showing ANY science is hopeless. Instead, what I suggest is to check yourself in to the closest metal-health facility and just relax there for a while. When (if) you get out, it should be clearer.

    Alternatively, if you are on psychotropic medications at present you may want to change scrips or dosages.

    It could be though that you are merely an ignorant partisan ideologue and/or stupid and deluded by Fox News and the fossil fuel industry disinformation network. In which case there may be no hope for you. Sorry.
     
    #136     Jun 13, 2012
  7. jem

    jem

    Note. I was plaintiffs environmental lawyer for a short time.
    And I just made my case out of Ricters mouth.

    The thing causing the CO2 to get thicker or thinner is the cause we care about. not the blanket itself.

    and note not a single one of you have produced any of the data I requested.

    I asked for the info regarding the marine measurements which show that the carbon sinks are still working... silence. ricter I thought this was an easy thing to understand. shouldn't those marine sites be showing rising CO2 levels just like the volcano...

    the simplest data can not be produced.

    I ask for data showing CO2 preceeds warming and we got one questionable article which concedes warming happened in antartica first.

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    #137     Jun 13, 2012
  8. jem

    jem

    you guys going to blame the earth or man for this one.


    http://www.sciencenews.org/view/gen...rbon_dioxide_breaking_down_marine_ecosystems_

    Jason Hall-Spencer of the University of Plymouth, England, and his colleagues have been collecting data from marine sites off Italy, Baja California and Papua New Guinea, where high concentrations of carbon dioxide percolate out of the seabed from volcanic activity below. Directly above these CO2 seeps, pH plummets to at least 7.8, a value that is expected to occur widely by 2100 and that is substantially lower than the normal level for the area, 8.1. These sites offer a preview of what may happen to seafloor ecosystems as CO2 levels continue to rise, causing ocean water pH to drop.
     
    #138     Jun 13, 2012
  9. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Obviously the U.N. needs to slap an exorbitant carbon tax on those volcanoes.
    And all will be well.
     
    #139     Jun 13, 2012
  10. jem

    jem

    oh yea...

    from the article I posted. a page or two ago...

    "less carbon dioxide has remained in the atmosphere, relative to the amount of fossil fuel emissions, today compared to 50 years ago,"

    so tell me again... how you know man is causing the increase in CO2 when the earth has carbon sinks and releases co2 itself?
     
    #140     Jun 13, 2012