IBKR opens @ 50 or so.

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by demoship, May 3, 2007.

  1. airwalk

    airwalk Guest

    Wise words.
    Patience in most of cases is rewarded.
     
    #241     May 9, 2007
  2. That would be "WOOF", not "whoof".

    OldTrader
     
    #242     May 9, 2007
  3. airwalk

    airwalk Guest

    Any info what broker(s) offers trading on Shanghai and Shenzhen? or have plans to step in?
     
    #243     May 9, 2007
  4. hope you longs took the hint. I dont give them often. 2 many ingrates


    Im afraid you've been outtraded by a pro. Now you know why he's a very wealthy man

    Smarter than you
     
    #244     May 9, 2007
  5. airwalk

    airwalk Guest

    #245     May 9, 2007
  6. airwalk

    airwalk Guest

    What is your thoughts about price after looking at IBKR stats on http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=IBKR

    BTW take a look at % held by insiders of GOOG. It is 1.07%, so they sold it almost all to grateful public in less then 3 yrs. Comparing it to TP's plans to sell in 8 yrs, it might be not that bad at all... Just shop and compare.
     
    #246     May 9, 2007
  7. Those statistics don't mean anything to me.

    However, I think your comparison to GOOG is tenuous at best. If you will recall, GOOG was one of those IPOs that nearly everyone said was too expensive, and in fact, when it was priced was priced well below the initial price indications. I don't recall an IPO where people were less enthusiastic than GOOG.

    Next, there's a big difference in my mind between the insiders at GOOG and the insiders at IB. The insiders at GOOG were a bunch of kids with little knowledge about securities markets. On the other hand, Petterfly (sp?) for instance is a veteran in securities markets. I would expect a much more sophisticated perspective about securities pricing from him, than I would from the insiders at GOOG.

    Finally, I think the general market climate is completely different today than it was several years ago when GOOG went public.

    The fact that they both went public via a dutch auction doesn't seem particularly important to me.

    I think IB is an excellent company. I'm a customer. And perhaps I'm not the best observer of this situation since I'm not really an IPO buyer....never have been. But to me IB has a cyclical component in it's earnings...the retail brokerage business. Those earnings (or perhaps more importantly...the perception of those earnings) in a correction could change significantly.

    I was tempted on this IPO at the original range. Raising the price and raising the offering size to me took the juice out of it. So I didn't participate in the IPO. Now I would prefer to wait until the stock looks lower risk to me. Always possible of course that it will go up without me. But that's the beauty of the markets....we don't have to trade everything, or all the time.

    So all I do here is express a perspective.

    OldTrader
     
    #247     May 9, 2007
  8. airwalk

    airwalk Guest

    Thank you for clarity.
    Pointing to yahoo stats makes sense in my opinion because it is used by majority of folks. What else do you use instead?

    I agree that trading this stock now does not make much sense.
     
    #248     May 9, 2007
  9. GOOG as I said at the time was ripped off by the street.

    This one.

    You figure it out
     
    #249     May 9, 2007
  10. WOOF WOOF WOOF
     
    #250     May 9, 2007