IB routing to PRIMEX

Discussion in 'Interactive Brokers' started by hpex1, Jan 18, 2002.

  1. yes i c your point, and you're right in a way.

    what is a danger though is that if primex becomes liquid (maybe already is), more and more people will move their bids/offers to the invisible zone. There's no incentive to post a bid of offer in that case. what you get is the real market becomes invisible.

    Maybe this isn't even a danger, maybe it's the best way to go for the nasdaq.

    the fees by the way are to become 1 cent per share for taking liquidity, so nobody will want to use it anyway, if the mm's ahve to pass it through to their customers.
     
    #81     Jan 27, 2002
  2. dlincke

    dlincke

    You're right, like with all third market crossing networks of this kind (e.g. eVWAP, POSIT etc.) if too much liquidity should migrate there from the primary market you end up with a situation where the tail wags the dog. Price discovery becomes inefficient since just a small part of the total liquidity determines the price boundaries for the majority of trades. The SEC has imposed relative volume restrictions for most crossing networks to prevent such situations from occurring.

    Dave
     
    #82     Jan 27, 2002
  3. Josh_B

    Josh_B

    I've tried to test primex with few orders and it still returns with an invalid order error.
    That was on nyse stocks, orders were to buy at the bid or bellow.

    Any ideas why the invalid response?

    Thanks

    Josh
     
    #83     Jan 27, 2002
  4. dlincke

    dlincke

    PRIMEX operates only in between the NBBO spread and only accepts marketable orders.

    Dave
     
    #84     Jan 27, 2002
  5. I trade relatively large size everyday on the nasdaq (half a million shares currently) and i guess i have to adapt. I hope my firm's trading system will allow me to join the crowd in Primex.. (and why not get rid of the ecn's)

    well, experience will tell when to use primex and when not. In any case it makes matters more complicating as they are already.
     
    #85     Jan 27, 2002
  6. Bachelier, dude, if you're doing 500k a day, you shouldn't be hoping for anything, you should be demanding, telling, and insisting.
     
    #86     Jan 27, 2002
  7. he, i am afraid i am still just a little boy among the gs's and morgans
     
    #87     Jan 27, 2002
  8. Buh-BYE PRIMEX!

    (I just hope they don't re-enable it with BEST)
     
    #88     Jan 28, 2002
  9. JPB

    JPB

     
    #89     Jan 28, 2002
  10. Catoosa

    Catoosa

    Dlincke:

    I read your response on 1/27/02 to my Post and what I thought I was trying to say is exactly what you said. I agree 100% with your way of explaining the way we think IB is or should be using PRIMEX and the potential for time delays. Thanks for the response and comments.

    Catoosa
     
    #90     Jan 28, 2002