IB - Portfolio Margin have higher requirement than Reg-T!!!

Discussion in 'Options' started by ofinance, Jul 30, 2012.

  1. 1245

    1245

    If you have more than $125k, and understand the risk of leverage, you shoould apply for PM. If you're too close to $100k you can have issues. You don't have to use the extra leverage. Thereis no additional charge for the flexibility.
     
    #41     Aug 1, 2012
  2. Jay_Ap

    Jay_Ap

    I would definitely opt for Portfolio Margin. That's just me however and this might not be the best choice for everyone, especially for novice traders that have yet to develop their risk management chops. My background is in building portfolio risk systems for large institutional investors so I'm strongly biased toward tightly risk controlled trading strategies.

    I was a portfolio manager for a quantitative equity long/short market-neutral hedge fund for over two years and we used Portfolio Margin. The fund consistently had leverage of around 6-to-1, held about 200 positions, and yet our risk was - by design - always about half that of the S&P 500. This wouldn't have even been remotely possible without Port Margin.

    What's interesting is that the risk of our portfolio would have increased substantially had we lowered the portfolio's leverage level. In contrast, if we could leverage up to 10-to-1 or beyond, our risk would have gone down even more substantially.

    It might seem like a mind-bender for some, but less leverage does not always equal less risk. In fact, with certain trading strategies higher leverage equates to less risk.
     
    #42     Aug 1, 2012
  3. hajimow

    hajimow

    1245 and JA_AP gave you good answers. If you know what you are doing, PM is way to go.
     
    #43     Aug 1, 2012
  4. 1245

    1245

    This is a little dry, but if you want to learn more about PM, read this.

    1245
     
    #44     Aug 1, 2012
  5. that is if all your assumptions are correct... LTCM
     
    #45     Aug 1, 2012
  6. Reduced transparency into the margin calculation

    that stuck out to me... ambiguous risk assumptions on the trader..
     
    #46     Aug 1, 2012
  7. wouldn't you think that new margin requirments could total cause the market to dive down even further once it makes a sort of "margin limit" move by the majority..
     
    #47     Aug 1, 2012
  8. 1245

    1245

    I think that if everyone uses a high percentage of their leverage with either Reg-T or PM on a consistent bases the market in general would have bigger swings in both directions. Since many accounts are cash, IRA, 401K or other funds that use no leverage at all, I don't think it's an issue. Also, a lot of leverage from PM is used for hedging which reduces risk. I can have a long portfolio of stocks I like, and short the SPY against it, as one example. This is hard to do with Reg-T.
     
    #48     Aug 1, 2012
  9. dispersion trading is hard unless you have a pm account is what i hear you saying.. in other word...
     
    #49     Aug 1, 2012
  10. 1245

    1245

    That's very true. But my example was not dispersion trading. It was an example of a Long portfolio that was hedging out market risk. Dispersion trading is buying the options of a basket of equities and selling the similar index options at a higher implied vol. You need PM for both if your trading as customer.
     
    #50     Aug 1, 2012