IB no interest on first 10K rule, what do you do with the money?

Discussion in 'Interactive Brokers' started by Daal, Apr 5, 2007.

  1. cscott

    cscott

    IB can't afford to pay interest on the first 10K. Didn't you see how much money they borrowed on their IPO prospectus?
     
    #61     Apr 16, 2007
  2. And we all know that scotty gets his jollies maligning IB. Check out his early posts --- a loser's loser. :p
     
    #62     Apr 16, 2007
  3. cscott

    cscott

    We all know that kiwi_trader is a kid that loves to troll. Just read his posts. What a sad individual!
     
    #63     Apr 16, 2007
  4. I'm trying to figure something out: I use my IB account almost exclusively for futures, mainly spreads. I rarely ever use more than 25% of equity for margin. Can I park all my cash in a high-yielding EFP and use it for margin?
     
    #64     May 23, 2007
  5. petteri

    petteri

    You can buy ie. Vanguard Short-Term Bond ETF or equivalent.

    If you have reg T margin you get 66,6 % margin value for those securities. Portfolio margin should be much higher.
     
    #65     May 24, 2007
  6. Daal

    Daal

    Dont do this
     
    #66     May 24, 2007
  7. This is only a factor if you have 10k in your account and only do daytrades. If you tie up the 10k in an ETF and want to hold a trade overnight you will pay margin interest that is much higher than the interest earned on the ETF.
     
    #67     May 24, 2007
  8. petteri

    petteri

    Who uses all the margin all the time overnight? Most traders want to have a lot of extra margin.

    You pay interest only for the margin you use which is usually much lower than available margin.

    With EFT you get interest for all the money.
     
    #68     May 24, 2007
  9. sellvol

    sellvol

    Yes. Hypothetical example:

    $100,001 account with $100,001 cash balance.
    GOOG at $500. Sell 2 July GOOG EFPs(100k worth). Yield 5.40%. Total commission $1.

    Available buying power after the trade will be $80k. You can daytrade stock or swing futures up to that 80k limit w/o incurring debit interest.

    To answer OP's question, the EFP will allow you to earn interest on the first 10k in your account.

    You can accomplish the same keeping your cash in liquid conversions as per atticus's rec under a PM based account. However, commission costs would be much higher. Either way, the benefits are slightly higher yield than what ib pays and moving profits over to the cap gains tax line.
     
    #69     Jun 15, 2007
  10. asragov

    asragov

    #70     Jun 15, 2007