IB Margin requirements rising as VIX falls, reaching nonsense levels

Discussion in 'Interactive Brokers' started by cruisecontrol, Apr 9, 2020.

  1. Fain

    Fain

    They just lost 88 million with Oil Futures. I would say Volatility is elevated for quite awhile.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/interactive-brokers-issues-statement-crude-200100659.html
     
    #61     Apr 21, 2020
  2. southall

    southall

    Posters here were remarking how low CL margin was vs ES.

    IB seem a bit clueless.

    And what happened to the Auto Liquidator.

    Anyone know what time yesterday IB stopped trading in the May CL contract yesterday.

    I thought they don't let you hold it last few days before expiry?
    If so how did they lose so big?
     
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    #62     Apr 21, 2020
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  3. keesa

    keesa

    CME removed circuit breaker for CL on 03/21 and allowed zero/negative values for CL on 04/15. I guess IB didn't even pay attention at all.:wtf:

    Without the help of the above "technical setup", CL would never had drama at all. I remember CL used to have 7%, 13%, 20% circuit breakers as ES. Remove them with an excuse of "market volatility"? Sounds fishy to me.
     
    #63     Apr 21, 2020
  4. southall

    southall

    The whole thing is dodgy as fuck.
    Market takedown to flush out all the weak hands and then rally it back up.

    It all looked like margin call liquidations to me.
     
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  6. Sig

    Sig

    Yeah, typical IB. I love all the fanboys always crowing about how much they love IB's buggy autoliquidation routine because it keeps their money safe, ignoring the fact that buggy autoliquidation routines indicate sloppy programming and incompetent employees. Hopefully this will shut them up for the time being at least.
     
    #66     Apr 21, 2020
  7. southall

    southall

    88 million could of bought a lot of talent.

    But most companies dont want to pay top rates. Most pay the least amount they can get away with.
     
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    #67     Apr 21, 2020
  8. Sig

    Sig

    Great point. GS, for example, pays top dollar for top talent. Even Schwab pays well and gets pretty good talent as a result. It's clear that IB made a conscious decision to be low price by being low cost and they thought they could do that by offloading everything that required intelligence onto "The Algorithm" and staffing the company at the minimum possible wage. Now we're seeing the predictable results.
     
    #68     Apr 21, 2020
  9. Fain

    Fain

    Is one of those a futures and one of them an option? Let’s do comparisons within the same product type. It’s easier and your not all over the place
     
    #69     Apr 22, 2020
  10. Fain

    Fain

    I dunno man. A risk department of quants that many have graduated from MIT that make over 200k year on average doesn’t sound like a company skipping out on wages.
     
    #70     Apr 22, 2020