IB Margin Changes

Discussion in 'Interactive Brokers' started by gtcharlie, Sep 19, 2011.

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  1. sprstpd

    sprstpd

    Does it matter who takes the other side of your trade during a forced liquidation? You are still going to lose the same amount of money due to your own reckless use of leverage.
     
    #181     Nov 2, 2011
  2. jayre

    jayre

    It makes a hack of a difference, that means there is a CONFLICT OF INTEREST when it comes to setting policy, on margin and auto liquidation.

    That would also explain why IB is auto liquidating instantly something “no other broker that I am aware of, does” (I called infinity and they say that they do not auto liquidate and you have time till end of the day to cover your margin deficiency)
     
    #182     Nov 2, 2011
  3. sprstpd

    sprstpd

    So you would feel happier if Goldman got your liquidated shares than IB when you were recklessly overleveraged?
     
    #183     Nov 2, 2011
  4. def

    def Sponsor

    Yes and programming.

    On the other question.
    I am not sure what is difficult to understand with the word wrong but I will restate another way.

    You stock X. You send a market order. The order is sent to the exchange. Whoever is on top of the book gets the fill.
     
    #184     Nov 2, 2011
  5. jayre

    jayre

    Def,
    You keep avoiding answering the question. The question is (for the 5th time)
    If Timbar Hill has been profiting from these IB auto liquidations, yes or no?
    I know the answer and that explains a lot of things, but you have a problem admitting it.
     
    #185     Nov 2, 2011
  6. Daal

    Daal

    The answer is yes if they they are bid/offering the best price
     
    #186     Nov 2, 2011
  7. jayre

    jayre

    Yes, I would be much happier if Goldman got the shares, because that would take away the incentive for IB autoliquidate their clients account without at least a short notice, that would also put my interest and the brokers interest at the same page just like it is at any other broker.

    Right now Timber Hill makes the most money when IB client loose (4th quarter 2008, 3d quarter 2011)
     
    #187     Nov 2, 2011
  8. def

    def Sponsor

    Not necessarily because buying into a falling and fast market is no guarantee for example. Nevertheless, being on the other side of a liquidation trade is few and far between. There simply aren't that many liquidations and take into account the market share of TH in any particular product and this really becomes a moot point. The problem for anyone shouldn't be who is on the other side of a liquidation but why you are being liquidated.
     
    #188     Nov 2, 2011
  9. sprstpd

    sprstpd

    Well if you don't like the policy, don't trade at IB. If I am being liquidated, I could care less who gets my shares.
     
    #189     Nov 2, 2011
  10. Daal

    Daal

    Come on man, they are a market maker, its part of the risk. Bottom line is that autoliquidation leads to market orders which usually benefits market markers
     
    #190     Nov 2, 2011
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