IB loses $28 million buying MF Global Stock

Discussion in 'Interactive Brokers' started by western, Nov 8, 2011.

  1. Filipp72

    Filipp72

    Like Interactive Brokers UK ltd is under LLC/corporation umbrella and IB uk ltd is SIPC protected ? .....

    You ( IB customer service ) not are professional ....

    Your job is just put the client happy ....
     
    #11     Nov 9, 2011
  2. western

    western

    Are they not part of the same holding company? If an affiliate of IBG makes a huge terrible bet and bankrupts the company, doesn't IBLLC also get taken down?
     
    #12     Nov 9, 2011
  3. Filipp72

    Filipp72

    Yes ...
     
    #13     Nov 9, 2011
  4. Filipp72

    Filipp72

    #14     Nov 9, 2011
  5. Yes, that's bad for IB and us customers but this quote is kind of reassuring (if you can ever trust what they say) that IB isn't gambling quite so much with customer's accounts.

     
    #15     Nov 9, 2011
  6. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I bet he made the investment as a start to taking over the firm. It's not gambling but the start of negotiations to get complete control. In this case they realized MFG was finished and stepped away.

    Corporations, Raiders, etc. do this all the time. It sounds like a business decision by the parent rather than a speculative bet.
     
    #16     Nov 9, 2011
  7. trendy

    trendy

    A huge bet? IB had a net capital balance of $1.3B as of August, according to the CFTC. I don't think a bet of 2% of net capital is a huge bet. What percentage of trading capital do you risk every day?
     
    #17     Nov 9, 2011
  8. IB-AN

    IB-AN Interactive Brokers

    Newwurldmn has it correct. This has nothing do do with market making activities but rather was a strategic investment consistent with the proposed deal with MF Global that has been publicly reported. It's a nominal amount relative to firm capital and it's been publicly disclosed at the proper time as well as through the proper forum (10Q).
     
    #18     Nov 9, 2011
  9. sprstpd

    sprstpd

    Besides, I'm pretty sure they were made whole when they auto-liquidated jayre.
     
    #19     Nov 9, 2011
  10. western

    western

    When do you think the last time IB lost $28mil in a single day with their market making division? Their VAR is likely way lower than that.

    I realize that 2% isn't a huge deal, but its something that IB should not have been doing in the first place.

    If they wanted to buy MF Global, they should've approached the company with an offer(and thank god they didn't) like its normally done.

    I don't want my money being intermingled with any "strategic investment" stock trades.

    MF Global likely will not be the last broker to go bankrupt. I hope IB isn't buying all the way down to 0 next time.
     
    #20     Nov 9, 2011