IB -- JPY buy stop didn't trigger

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by SideShowBob, Sep 21, 2006.

  1. My order didn't trigger today and I was hoping someone could tell me why. It was entered via TWS with the following properties:
    contract: JPY on GLOBEX (japanese yen)
    order type: stop
    stop price: 0.8640
    order time in force: GTD
    good after time: 20060921 08:20:00 EST
    expiration date: 20060921
    expiration time: 15:00:00 EST
    FA allocation: single account
    order attributes: I only specified "Hidden"

    Once 8:20 hit this morning I expected it to be "live" and the current price was above the buy stop price, so I expected it to fill immediately but it didn't. After watching it for a minute or two and verifying the settings I changed it to a market order and it filled immediately. Does anyone have any idea why it wouldn't fill immediately otherwise? Does specifying "hidden" somehow prevent this? Since it's GLOBEX and a simulated stop anyway I figured hidden just meant it wouldn't appear in the market depth until the stop price was met then it would just be sent as a market order.

    The TIF and good after date are done so it will only be valid during side by side hours of the CME pit, since that's what I'm basing the buy/sell decisions on (but I don't actually want it to go to the pit so I can be mugged).

    Also I thought maybe the FA account specified didn't have permissions or enough margin (even though I was certain it did) but the fact that it filled after switching it to a market order means that isn't the case. Has anyone seen this behavior before and there's something I should have specified differently?
  2. Fine print from IB website:


    Stop Orders: Stop orders are not supported by GLOBEX. Interactive Brokers provides customers with simulated stop orders. Simulated stop orders will only trigger during regular trading hours unless configured by the customer. Regular trading hours are from 9:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. New York time. In order to be able to place stop orders outside of regular trading hours, go to the TWS, select Configure >> Order >> Stop Trigger Method. Under "GLOBEX Orders Time Restriction" you may choose to allow stop orders to trigger outside of regular trading hours.

    Stop-Limit Orders: Stop-Limit orders are native to GLOBEX and can be placed at anytime during trading hours. Please note the following restrictions placed by GLOBEX.

    For Sell Stop-Limit Orders, the limit price must be <= stop price (aux. price)

    For Buy Stop-Limit Orders, the limit price must be >= stop price (aux. price)"

  3. In my system the order is:

    Configure > order > trigger method > at the bottom of the page check box=allow triggering outside of reg hours.

    Cheers !
  4. Thanks, that makes sense. I just assumed RTH would be the side by side pit hours....stupid to assume :eek:
  5. Thanks guys, I'll also go update my post on the IB board.....since nobody ever goes there :confused: