IB Initial Margin on ES is 22,000

Discussion in 'Interactive Brokers' started by RedDuke, Mar 15, 2020.

  1. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    I mean, really.
    Anybody notice the >70 VIX last trading day? Eh?
    If YOU were IB, what would you do? :rolleyes:

    We're down almost 5% more than Friday's close.
    WHAT would you do? :rolleyes:
     
    #11     Mar 15, 2020
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  2. brench

    brench

    It's better than AMPGlobal though:

    "Due extreme volatility - During tonight's Night Session, We have currently set the Exchange-Traded Futures to liquidation only. We will not be accepting any new orders during the US Overnight Session."
     
    #12     Mar 15, 2020
  3. hafez50

    hafez50

    $22k for 1 es is down 420 es to lose it all.Overnight you can only fall 5%. I can see $12-$14k per es overnight margin . Your talking about 18% or so to wipe $22k out. But $22k intraday is insane.Personally none of this affects me as i have a big 6 fig account i trade with
     
    #13     Mar 15, 2020
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  4. jys78

    jys78

    This. I don't want the company to go under bc some idiots overleveraged.
     
    #14     Mar 15, 2020
  5. When I see people bitch about margins during times like these, I am assured that my low opinion of many traders is justified.

    If you want to be known as an imbecile, keep bitching.
     
    #15     Mar 16, 2020

  6. Dude , the size of your account is of no import. A broker has zero interest in taking on any of your trading risk , short or long.

    If something happened to wipe your equity out, +200k , would you be writing a check the next day?
     
    #16     Mar 16, 2020
  7. hafez50

    hafez50

    I Know my account size has no relevance . This am spy down around 9% . To blow out $22k per es it’s have to be down 18%. We’d get a trading halt at 13% first . But yes were in historical times and anything can happen. I have well well well over $200k in account as I also trade stocks at times . I’m 95% cash so all what were talking about irrelevant. I’m sure some brokers go under today and this week but I assure you IB a monster in this business .
     
    #17     Mar 16, 2020
  8. longshort

    longshort

    Brokers had ample time to liquidate positions from 17:00 to 17:15, and again from 8:45 onwards. Today the entire gap risk (and therefore liquidation risk) was less than 150 points = $7500. Any broker observing the CME minimums and with auto-liquidation did just fine, just like they would have done throughout the entire crisis of 2008.

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    #18     Mar 16, 2020
  9. $22k for 1 ES is so yesterday. IB @ $30k now :wtf:
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    #19     Mar 21, 2020
  10. Strange times indeed. What if the US and the rest of the global powers decide to shut everything down. What is a major bank or banks fail. Is it possible for limit down day 1, maybe day 2, maybe day 3? What if exchanges shut down? When they reopen you think it will be an orderly limit down but plenty of time to liquidate on a bounce?
     
    #20     Mar 21, 2020