IB has most number of profitable traders (2014)

Discussion in 'Forex' started by traderob, Apr 14, 2015.

  1. traderob

    traderob

    thanks
    Could you post any statistics that you base this on.
     
    #21     Apr 15, 2015
  2. bln

    bln

    Well, I base it on the published brokerage statistics I have seen. On average as a group traders seam to be centred in the middle, maybe in the range of +10% to -10% if I guess. Traders with <2 years experience heavily on the negative side with outsized losses and traders with >15 years experience on the positive side of the curve. Which is just logical. The more trading experience and deep market understanding you acquire, the more consistent your returns will be.
     
    #22     Apr 15, 2015
  3. This makes sense. I think the average amateur trader should break even before commissions (exactly zero alpha). If we include "investors" then there is probably even a small positive average. But there is selection bias. Unless you get a constant supply of new customers then after a while the surviving population of traders will be those who are succesful (skillful and lucky; or just lucky). This will bias the average up.

    This is all before costs....


    I think its possible, just, to make reasonable money day trading the cheapest futures (down to timeframes of a few hours, not minutes). However using the typical spreads on forex spread bets (the most common way of trading amongst UK punters) you're likely to have a significantly negative sharpe. With that kind of average return it isn't suprising you get 90% plus of customers losing money.

    (I don't want to repeat the points I made on the other thread about day trading...)

    This includes me (I'm an IB client). I don't actively trade forex but I need to do so to cover my futures margin. So I made maybe a dozen forex trades last year. On which I lost a small amount of money. Although I was up overall I guess I would be counted as a loser. I'm not sure how representative I am though.

    Was it this guy http://theessentialsoftrading.com/B.../starting-to-detail-forex-profitability-data/?
     
    #23     Apr 15, 2015
  4. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    It's not going to be a bell curve. It's a skewed distribution with a fat right hand tail. The "winners" will continue to take marketshare from the "losers." So for every winner, there will be 3 losers. This is especially the case in zero-sum markets like derivatives and futures.
     
    #24     Apr 15, 2015