IB customers lose $88m trading WTI crude

Discussion in 'Interactive Brokers' started by ZBZB, Apr 21, 2020.

  1. creator

    creator

    This

    I’m one of the lucky ones, bought one contract at 0.01 and tried to exit at -0.4 when realized there was no opportunity no put negative price and market price also didn’t work. The price of the contract stayed at zero until today’s morning when they just closed it so it was nice to suddenly get -37k.
    I can’t reach them by phone, they don’t answer my tickets and I’ve managed to reach then in chat only one time when the settlement price was being reviewed so that all they answered.

    No the price is final and they liquidated all my positions.

    Can anybody advise me what to do? Doesn’t look they are eager to reimburse me.
    Also, am I supposed to cover my negative balance now? It’s more than I had there
     
    #31     Apr 21, 2020
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  2. southall

    southall

    Anyone know if WTI on ICE went negative like CL did?
     
    #32     Apr 21, 2020
  3. With all due respect, both you and IB don’t understand futures, that’s the problem.

    What are you “afraid” of?

    Exactly. As stated above, IB does not now, nor has it ever known futures.
     
    #33     Apr 21, 2020
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  4. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    IB prevented any orders on Monday for May contract. If you traded live you would know it. Go and hide under the rock where you crawled from.
     
    #34     Apr 21, 2020
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  5. southall

    southall

    Yeah its clear his story doesnt add up, plus that was his first post.
     
    #35     Apr 21, 2020
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  6. schizo

    schizo

    CME has been sending out their "Advisory Notices" since April 3 regarding negative prices. I highly doubt a reputable firm like IB would have overlooked them.

    https://www.cmegroup.com/notices/electronic-trading/2020/04/20200403.html#pageNumber=1


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    #36     Apr 21, 2020
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  7. southall

    southall

    Big firms are slow to do stuff most times.

    Besides IB losses were on WTI and not CL. So im not sure if negative prices was the issue.
     
    #37     Apr 21, 2020
  8. maxinger

    maxinger

    IB customers lose $88m trading WTI crude

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    Some traders earned $88m trading WTI crude




    Always look at things from correct angle.

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    #38     Apr 21, 2020
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  9. creator

    creator

    Wow, didn’t expect that advice.
    For those who have doubts, ready to share the screenshots, don’t see how it change anything though
     
    #39     Apr 21, 2020
  10. schizo

    schizo

    I beg to differ. IB has always been very strict on margins and their handling of the futures is impeccable in my view. If there's a brokerage out there that I feel most confident in investing, it would be IB.

    How I see this is two-fold:
    1) There was a technical glitch in their system.
    2) They're taking the losses from the oil producer and transferring it over to the Fed (ie. on the "fed's book"). I mean, who knows whether the Fed is not behind it?
     
    #40     Apr 21, 2020
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