IB Crude Oil Margin Reqs

Discussion in 'Interactive Brokers' started by Zanatos, Oct 31, 2007.

  1. When I check this through TWS it shows initial margin of $6,412.50 and maintenance of $4,750.
     
    #11     Oct 31, 2007
  2. ids

    ids

    #12     Oct 31, 2007
  3. Zanatos

    Zanatos

    Ids...and others...it seems that IB has indeed been consistent with the Nymex margin rate increases as of late..and have always charged the customer rate..this from the other press release:

    "NYMEX to Change Margins for Crude Oil, Related Futures Contracts

    NEW YORK, N.Y., October 16, 2007 -- The New York Mercantile Exchange, Inc. today announced margin changes for its crude oil and related futures contracts, beginning at the close of business tomorrow.

    Margins for the November 2007 crude oil, crude oil calendar swap, and crude oil financial futures contracts will increase to $4,000 from $3,000 for clearing members, to $4,400 from $3,300 for members, and to $5,400 from $4,050 for customers. Margins for all other months will increase to $3,500 from $3,000 for clearing members, to $3,850 from $3,300 for members, and to $4,725 from $4,050 for customers. "

    The confusion I had with, is that I didn't realize Nymex implied a special rate for November AND then again for December...so, if this is so..then our/my gripe is with the Nymex...if that is the case..I will of course just "eat it"...as every other futures broker should have the same margin reqs...so again...my bad...

    Though...that still raises the question then ID's if IB will bring back the daytrading margin?...
     
    #13     Oct 31, 2007
  4. Zanatos

    Zanatos

    Hey Chauncey...no worries..I understand what you are saying...and as I realized..the Nymex is the one that did consistently raise the margin twice for customers...which was Ib's rate increases...though...as to effecting trading...I use ultra-tight stops in my trading..so my account is never at risk...the only way I could lose serious money is if the Nymex and the IPE went down simultaneously, a major event happened; I held the wrong end of the trade AND I was exposed "one-sidedly" (is that a word?) to the move...
     
    #14     Oct 31, 2007
  5. ids

    ids

    Sorry, I cannot tell you when we return intraday margin for energy products right now. The decision is still pending.
     
    #15     Oct 31, 2007
  6. Zanatos

    Zanatos

    Also..just to mention...for other oil traders, that now means that London is 16.3% cheaper per contract margin, and 30% better on commission at Ib rates currently...though, not nearly close in liquidiity...as of next month's contract...margins will be roughly same (Nymex/IPE)
     
    #16     Oct 31, 2007