IB borrow rate for BIMI 860%

Discussion in 'Interactive Brokers' started by Maverick2608, Oct 15, 2019.

  1. trader99

    trader99

    The synthetic short stock is an options strategy used to simulate the payoff of a short stock position. It is entered by selling at-the-money calls and buying an equal number of at-the-money puts of the same underlying stock and expiration date.

    I think you flipped your call and puts.
     
    #11     Oct 15, 2019
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  2. Sig

    Sig

    Actually I flipped my terminology, thanks for the correction! It's a synthetic long, but will capture the borrow rate same as if you bought the stock and lent it out. If it's an expensive to borrow stock put/call parity will be broken and the ATM puts will sell for much more than the ATM calls. Take a look at ZM 71 calls right now, for example.
     
    #12     Oct 15, 2019
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  3. Thank you for sound input.

    In case brokers lift borrow fees above the market rate, the relevant strategy must be the synthetic short stock options strategy described by trader99. The strategy will secure paying the market borrow rate instead of a potentially artificially high broker borrow rate - although there will be additional transaction costs if the options are illiquid.

    The synthetic long strategy can be used to capture the borrow rate as described by Sig. Interactive Brokers do actually share part of the borrow rate with their customers. I don’t think other brokers do that? Anyhow, the options strategy will capture the entire borrow rate minus additional transaction costs of illiquid options.

    Conclusion:
    I think the brokers will be tempted to raise borrow rates despite the availability of the synthetic short stock options strategy, because most retail traders do not realize that they can use a synthetic short. The additional transactions costs of illiquid options in itself make room for borrow rates above the market rate.

    The Bloomberg Terminal does not seem to display stock borrow rates. I guess there is no other way than to calculate the implied rate from option prices?
     
    #13     Oct 16, 2019
  4. I assume all brokers disclose their borrow rates.

    If someone is interested in sharing borrow rates quoted at different brokers then send a message to me. I can supply the Interactive Brokers borrow rates. Then we can compare rates.
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2019
    #14     Oct 16, 2019
  5. luisHK

    luisHK

    :D
     
    #15     Oct 16, 2019
  6. excrypto

    excrypto

    I don’t really understand the rates. I’ve seen 7-800% quite a few times this week on low floats mentioned above but the payback rate was just a few points below the funding rate. So it wasn’t that huge of a difference.
     
    #16     Oct 19, 2019
  7. qwerty11

    qwerty11

    What's not to understand about that? Borrowers pay and lenders get paid (against a slightly different rate)?
     
    #17     Oct 19, 2019
  8. qwerty11

    qwerty11

    IB rates can be found on public FTP:

    https://ibkr.info/article/2024
     
    #18     Oct 19, 2019
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  9. spindr0

    spindr0

    #19     Oct 19, 2019
  10. spindr0

    spindr0

    As I understand it, with underlying at the strike, Put + Carry = Call + Div

    So if there's a pending dividend, it increases the put's premium, relative to the same series call. And if the interest rate rises, it increases the call's premium relative to the same series put.

    But with a synthetic short, it bumps the put's premium up. Is this because the borrow rate is paid out as well? If so, I don't see how it fits into the formula. Can you provide an example? TIA.
     
    #20     Oct 19, 2019