IB Announces about Universal Account

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by Spark, Jun 21, 2002.

  1. yes, that's it, with the exeption there is no "have" or "must".
    you can carry around your balances, p/l, as long as you want
    (e.g. you trade FESX 1 month, and convert you profit once
    a month)
     
    #21     Jun 22, 2002
  2. forgot: the FX spread is not like FX brokers, but
    you can put in a limit order on IDEAL (between the spread)
     
    #22     Jun 22, 2002
  3. sorry but which operation was the good one ?
    the first one or the second one ? And were the fees associated the good one ?


    And do you pay the fixed comm each time you open a position in a foreign currency or only when you finally convert your P&L?
     
    #23     Jun 22, 2002
  4. example:

    i have an USD-based account with all USDs in it.

    i trade ESTOXX fut. 20 days, close always intraday, 20 rt. per
    day. the commissions are taken from my EUR subaccount,
    which gets into debit. however, i made decent profits
    with the futures... after 20 days i have made 10000EUR,
    -1000EUR commissions, which i accumulated over the days.
    i want to get a new car, i sell EUR on IDEAL vs. USD
    (paying commissions) and get it wired out...

    got it ?
     
    #24     Jun 22, 2002
  5. Still unclear sorry :)

    1. 1000 EUR commissions is...IB future comm or FX commissions?
    400 trades (20x20) should be 1600 EUR that is why I asked.
    2. Sell EUR/USD is like buying USD/EUR right ?
    3. What do you call EUR subaccount? Do you mean EUR P&L on
    your universal account ?
     
    #25     Jun 22, 2002
  6. 1. futures commish
    2. yes, the same
    3. an universal account has many hidden subaccounts,
    i assume (e.g. USD stocks, USD futures, EUR, HKD, GBP, ETC),
    they are IB internal
     
    #26     Jun 22, 2002
  7. Ok I understood...

    I think IB should do a page with various trader profile and explain it that way with examples. We are not all used to FX operations...

    Last question :
    When you sell EUR/USD you pay :
    1. 2.95$ comm ?
    2. 3.25€ ?

    Then I guess when you buy USD/EUR you pay the other one...
     
    #27     Jun 22, 2002
  8. good question, i think this is due to your account base
    currency, when you do not trade cross-currency.
    the currency commish is more if it is taken on an EUR
    basis (since EUR is - was less worth than one USD).
    also possible: the currency bought determines commission
    currency - and therefore the amount.
     
    #28     Jun 22, 2002
  9. I would think like what you said at the end : the currency bought determine the commission

    If you sell EUR vs USD you indeed buy USD so they would substract the 2.95$ from the EUR amount that has just been converted in USD...

    Sounds logical for me...

    I sent a mail to IB to ask them to do a dedicated FX pages with clear real life examples of trader profile, more informations on the classical FX spread on majors & crosses, and on the margin they practise for FX, also they should clearly write that they don't accept incoming EUR wires to a USD Universal and so on...

    I guess the questions we asked will become the top 1 question to IB helpdesk if they don't write this page.

    Maybe also a test about all those conversions when you open a universal would be good so that everybody study& understand how the multicurrency part work.
     
    #29     Jun 22, 2002
  10. Just to answer my question

    You don't pay anymore 10$+10$ for stocks & emini you just pay 10$, free if above 30$ in comm in the month...
     
    #30     Jun 22, 2002