I wrote an algorithm that will give you a stock that will make .5% the next day...BUT

Discussion in 'Trading' started by selrod0324, Oct 22, 2010.

  1. Bob111

    Bob111

    with such tight range in many case it would be impossible to tell which one was hit first. target or stop.
     
    #31     Oct 22, 2010
  2. A very long quest indeed; I approach it like I do scientific research. Take tons of data, analyze data. Test predictions in idea, controlled environment, lastly test predictions in real world..

    I am at the first step, in the process though I enjoy getting as much advice from as many knowledgeable people as possible.

    Everyoens help,advice,criticism,etc... is greatly appreciated
     
    #32     Oct 22, 2010
  3. promagma

    promagma

    Is your prediction profitable if you trade (previous close) to close or open to close? This is the initial test.

    0.5% target / stop is just money management. It won't turn an unprofitable strategy that fails the initial test, into a profitable one. Optimizing the money management is the last thing you should do.
     
    #33     Oct 22, 2010

  4. Yup.

    This was my line of thought, hence the reason I will be programatically trading if the algorithms prove to be sound.

    This is also why I want tick by tick data, I don't want to have to interpolate or extrapolate any data, even if it is just for a minute
     
    #34     Oct 22, 2010
  5. This particular algorithm is Close.previous to wherever the exit point is reached.

    With enough data, I will be able to optimize the the stop and that optimization may be 0.5% or it could be 10%....Oh, I agree 100% that it wont at all, this stop is for the sole purpose of minimizing loss in real world scenarios and could be anything once I have enough data to analyze to determine this point.
     
    #35     Oct 22, 2010
  6. Which Yahoo API are you using?

    In addition to the textbook I recommended in an earlier post, consider the following.
    • Back testing, like any computer simulation of the real world (think engineering) has its limitations. Even with tick data, you can't assume the trades you want to make will be executed in a timely fashion or at the price you want.
    • If your system is sufficiently robust, it should not require the universe of financial instruments at tick data level to prove it feasible. With a more limited data set, you may find tick data more economical.
    • Once your computer simulation shows promise, you should go to paper trading. Paper trading, like an engineering prototype, is good for working out the bugs of interfacing with the real world. Even paper trading has it's compromises. Although you will be filled at the price you request if the market trades at that level, no consideration is given to availability.
    • Your next step is to trade live (with money) but for small amounts. Consider this preproduction testing.
    • Now you are ready for full production. Live long and prosper.
     
    #36     Oct 22, 2010
  7. promagma

    promagma

    Test it close-to-close. Or with daily data, you have enough accuracy to test a wide stop loss/target, say 10%. If these tests aren't profitable I would say 99% it won't work and you won't be able to turn it into a winner with different money monagement.
     
    #37     Oct 22, 2010
  8. I suggest a 100% stop loss and a 2% profit target for maximum results.
     
    #38     Oct 22, 2010
  9. 0.5% for a $100 stock is just 50 cents. For $20 stocks it is a mere 10 cents. I can give you an algorithm that is 99% correct in predicting which stock will make 0.5% next day.

    Is this also annoying to you? I am trying to say to you that your 72% is a meaningless number. I am sorry if it is annoying to you. You should have asked for answers that satisfy you only. I would not have posted in that case.
     
    #39     Oct 22, 2010
  10. Lol then do it, (you clearly have no idea what you are talking about).

    a 0.5% daily return would be quite impressive....do you realize what kind of return that is?

    You have to be trolling, you can't be so stupid...it's not possible

    Any daytrader would give is left nut to make 0.5% a day
     
    #40     Oct 22, 2010