I would like to discuss averaging down

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by Daring, Sep 1, 2012.

  1. well, there goes the neighborhood
     
    #211     Sep 21, 2012
  2. Despite the repeated sarcasm that continues to flow from you like a raging niagra.. this time- I must admit -- this was good and made for a good laugh!
     
    #212     Sep 21, 2012
  3. Well, you obviously need to enter at strategic levels and not in the middle of nowhere while using a meaningful stop that is outside noise, such that if it`s hit, you were actually wrong, and price will typically drop even more.

    Then you re-enter after price drops if you still remain a bull (many scenarios can unfold and the picture is always changing), instead of averaging down to the next level, from where you need a significant favourable excursion just to break even. And that is ignoring the risk you`re piling on as price drops.

    Of course, an alternative would be to not average down and wait until price rises to add the next unit. But that`s not very smart either, since you miss a potentially nice move.
     
    #213     Sep 21, 2012
  4. Lol!!!

    Oldtime-- will you be here all week?

    Lol
     
    #214     Sep 21, 2012
  5. No you didn't oldtime. When strong levels get breached... they typically gravitate to the next level.. far below or above your stop point. You should be on the other side of the trade-- not diddling in the middle as price continued to go to the next level. The first stop loss is always the cheapest. Now-- if one does not know where to properly place a stop- of course-- you could be getting out where you should be buying - in an area of demand! You gotta know where supply/demand exists... but u dont need absolutes by any means.

    Size and controlling risk are the two most important aspects of my trading plan... controlling losses first and foremost. Sticking to the highest probability/highest profit potential/lowest risk levels for entries --profits easily take care of themselves.

    Humor me oldtime:

    You've got a 1R of $ 1500.

    You're an intraday trader... flat end of day.

    You prefer to take trades that offer a minimum of 1:2 risk/reward.

    You want to short GOOG and average down when it breaks 728.

    Price is currently weak for most of day- then exhibits relative strength and it becomes obvious that a breakout is going to happen.

    How would you handle it?
     
    #215     Sep 21, 2012
  6. Lol your absurd hyperbole is the best part about your posts oldtime.
     
    #216     Sep 21, 2012
  7. No no noooooo oldtime...

    In your case that happened whem Mr Rogers left the air...
     
    #217     Sep 21, 2012
  8. I wouldn't do it that way. Especially flat by any date or time certain. I have all eternity to let it play out.

    I have no risk reward ratio except in historical analysis.

    I wouldn't short anything unless I also had somehing on long that was correlated.

    and even one pair isn't enough for me.
     
    #218     Sep 21, 2012
  9. Well put posts sir!
     
    #219     Sep 21, 2012
  10. He's gone already? shucks, I was just starting to get used to him. Must admit, it was a rough transitioning for me going from Captain Kangaroo. I'll be glad when things finally stop changing.
     
    #220     Sep 21, 2012